Jocko Willink is an extremely successful author & entrepreneur who gives big hope to veterans and young people around the world. But not everything is perfect and Jocko is not an exception.
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I have immense respect for the military personnel who protect the American citizens from the likes of terrorists & tyrannical countries. However, some people tend to use their military badges to market themselves and scam people.
Jocko is not one of them.
After watching hours upon hours of The Jocko Podcast, and reading Extreme Ownership, I realized some major flaws in Mr. Willink’s advice and philosophy. And no one has talked about it!
People point out the major flaws in David Goggins‘ way of life, people have criticized Jordan Peterson’s philosophies and ideas, but no one points out the semi-toxic ways of Jocko.
In this post, I’ll cover how Jocko’s advice is not for most people and how he has masterfully made a cult-like following. We’ll also take a look at some interesting findings of Willink.
Who is John Gretton “Jocko” Willink?
John Gretton Willink, or more commonly known as Jocko Willink, is an ex-Navy SEAL turned entrepreneur. He served the military during the war in Iraq, as the commander of the SEAL Team 3 (Task Unit Bruiser). The battle took place in Ramadi. Jocko received a Bronze Star & the Silver Star for his service and he achieved the Lieutenant Commander rank.
Jocko had an excellent career in the military and we salute him for his service to the nation, however, this is not the highlight of Mr. Willink’s career.
Even though I highly doubt that anyone reading this post doesn’t know who Jocko is, I’ve still added this section for context for the 1% that don’t.
Jocko Willink Navy SEAL Career
Like every other Navy SEAL, Jocko went through the BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL training) as well. Jocko often mentions that BUD/S is not a highlight of a SEAL’s career or training and has an open bias towards SEALS who have gone through a deployment.
He was part of BUD/S class 177 and is reported to be one of the best performers of his class. After completing the STT (SEAL Tactical Training) and his 6-month probationary period, Jocko received the “NEC 5326” (Combatant Swimmer) and was given the SEAL insignia to wear.
Mr. Willink has given 8 years of his life to military service. He was enlisted with SEAL Team ONE and SEAL Team TWO.
Jocko later became a mustang via Officer Candidate School and with his newfound expertise and experience, he became a platoon commander. He has been deployed to the Middle East, Europe, and even Asia.
The highlight of his military career was the vital role he played in Operation Iraqi Freedom. He deployed to the city of Ramadi in ’06 as the commander of Task Unit Bruiser which consisted of amazing personnel like Chris Kyle, Jonny Kim, Michael Monsoor, Marc Alan Lee, and Kevin Lacz.
He has even served as an instructor for the Navy SEAL.
John Gretton “Jocko” Willink retired on October 2010.
Soon after retirement, Jocko Willink and his SEAL buddy Leif Babin, launched Echelon Front, a leadership consulting firm. The firm was a success as Mr. Willink has a striking personality, backed by two decades of experience in the military. Echelon Front works with corporations and businesses, and help the upper management become better leaders.
He also has a weekly podcast, “The Jocko Podcast”, which is very popular among young people. Apart from this, Jocko is also an instructor at Victory MMA & Fitness, where he teaches jiu-jitsu. Jocko is also the co-owner of Origin USA, which sells various products ranging from fitness equipment, nutrition supplements, and apparel.
Jocko Willink Wife
Helen was a light attendant when Jocko married her. She is the mother of Jocko’s four children.
She is originally from England and moved to the USA for Jocko. Helen compromised her own professional endeavors to take care of her children.
There is a rumor that Helen met Jocko while she was working as a flight attendant, however, it hasn’t been confirmed by Jocko.
She also helps her husband Jocko with managing his businesses including the fitness and training center, protein shake and other supplements, podcast, and online merchandise.
Flaws In The Jocko Willink Extreme Ownership Method
Don’t get me wrong, I used to be a big fan of Jocko until I started noticing how people are self-sabotaging their lives because of him.
While there are people who have lost weight or improved their career with extreme ownership, most people are actively making life worse for themselves and here’s why:
Extreme Ownership makes people hopeless and cynical.
What Jocko doesn’t understand is that people have different personalities, temperaments, and experiences. Taking “extreme ownership” leads to severe depression and regret most people.
When you try to find reasons to blame yourself for everything wrong going on in your life, relationship, health, etc., and you are not a strong-willed person like Jocko, you are bound to get depressed or become delusional.
The idea of Extreme Ownership is simply brilliant, but it is only suited for individuals with very high-stress tolerance. For example, a Navy SEAL or a Wall Street broker in the 80s. This principle does not apply to everyone even though Jocko and his team keep saying it can.
Finding things you can improve in each mistake you make is an essential part of growing as a person, but there’s a limit of how many things a person can improve without feeling like the worst pile of garbage to walk the face of the earth. That’s just how our minds work.
Jocko is an extremely disciplined and genetically gifted person. I think we all can agree on that. And that’s exactly why the extreme ownership concept works so well for him, he can actually implement it without burning out. But the chances are most of the people who follow Jocko are not as gifted as he is. And his followers need to realize that.
Here’s the paradox which most Jocko fans get into:
Everyone has a distinct personality and stress-tolerance, which is the result of various factors including childhood trauma, financial condition, personality type, IQ, social intelligence, etc. And for the best life possible, you should try to find ways to do the hard things in a way that you like.
Let me elaborate, if you hate writing essays then the Jocko advice would be to, “Get after it and get it done!”, (you probably read that in Jocko’s voice), however, the optimal advice would be to find different ways you can start writing the essay. For example, try putting a timer of 1 minute and only write for 1 minute, but if you feel like continuing, feel free to do so. Or use the classic Pomodoro Technique of working for 25 minutes and resting for 5. These are time tested methods that will help you become a person who can then start having extreme ownership.
What 99% of Jocko’s followers do is that they go straight ahead and start looking for ways to find blame. They blame themselves if they were procrastinating instead of working, they blame themselves if their boss treats them horribly or doesn’t pay on time. Now, there is always blame to accept, but explicitly accepting blame for every action or mistake takes a big toll on your self-esteem. And unless you have god-like self-confidence like Jocko, you will eventually fail and get depressed.
Jocko’s philosophy has helped big corporations and it worked wonders for his platoon in Ramadi, Iraq. But that’s mostly because both such workplaces attract/require/hire people with a very high-stress tolerance. and self-confidence. With high self-confidence, there comes narcissism which is what extreme ownership helps solve. It forces humility and it counteracts the narcissism which results in better efficiency.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t follow Jocko’s Extreme Ownership if it works for you. But if it is not, then please don’t blame yourself for it. It is a shame that Jocko has not talked about this topic but it most likely because Echo is a bootlicker and is often shut up by Jocko’s intensity during Q&A sessions.
Jocko thinks extreme ownership works for everyone because it did for him and his specific clients. But he never factors in how the mind of a metropolitan work, because he has simply no experience working with them. He just gives a scripted speech and teaches pre-written material to the employees of the company which hire him. He has only worked with people of military or/and sports background so we shouldn’t blame him for this lack of awareness. Though Jocko should take extreme ownership of this fact. Right?
David Goggins’ Can’t Hurt Me also presents a similar issue, but David’s philosophy is much more extreme and brutal than Jocko’s. I’ll cover Mr. Goggins next week, so stay tuned for that.
Jocko Doesn’t Believe In Masks For COVID-19
This is not clickbait, Jocko doesn’t practice wearing a mask or social distancing for that matter.
Jocko brought a 70-year-old S.Vietnamese SOG soldier, John Stryker Meyer (or Cowboy), on The Jocko Podcast episode number 258. After the podcast, he took a photo with Mr. Meyer, and as you can see in the screenshot below, he is neither wearing a mask nor practicing social distancing.
Unlike Joe Rogan who tests everyone present in the podcast for Covid-19 before the meeting, Jocko has not mentioned anywhere whether he tests his guests and his staff at all. This is quite concerning as it is a weekly podcast and he often invites guests from different states. Jocko soon tested positive for Covid-19 as well, which makes it very likely that Mr. Khahn Doan contracted the virus from Jocko or from someone at the podcast.
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Jocko did feel guilty for his carelessness and shared the link of the donation page of “Cowboy”, where he donated $2,000 himself and the total contribution was a whopping $33,873. And this is why I love Jocko, he might be a little narcissistic, but he walks his talk.
Although, people were concerned about the co-relation of the timing of the report, and the podcast, Jocko never addressed this incident further.
I don’t think that wearing a mask and social distancing should be a political issue, it is for the safety & security of our loved ones. As an influencer, I think Jocko should’ve been more precautionary and he should’ve at least wore a mask.
I’m not the only one that feels that way. On the Jocko Podcast subreddit, Jocko fans were discussing this incident and it seems that they didn’t like Jocko’s no-mask socialization as well.
However, criticizing Jocko Willink on the internet is a sin for which you are punished by vague rationalizations by his fan base. Even on this post, there will be dozens of people trying to defend Jocko’s ideology and actions, simply because he is their idol. The fanboys quickly told the commenter that “Cowboy” has stated that he contracted the COVID-19 from a different social event. And without any skepticism, Jocko fans accepted this fact.
But let’s think about it for a second. Jocko basically gave ~$33,000 to this man’s family and an insane amount of exposure through the podcast, so it would’ve been just horrible to ruin Jocko’s perfect reputation by stating that he was the reason Cowboy contracted the virus.
It just makes sense that “Cowboy” wouldn’t want Jocko’s brand to be hampered, after all, Jocko helped him out financially and emotionally.
The truth is harsh, but we shouldn’t be oblivious to it. Jocko isn’t perfect and he has a lot of skeletons in his closet. I and many other people have suffered because of this dogma and I only want to help in sorting out this issue.
Jocko Supports The Iraq War
There have been conflicting opinions on the Iraq war and the participation of the United States in it. The citizens of the US were not happy with the decision and they have their reasons for it.
In a podcast with the Zen atheist Sam Harris himself, Jocko shared opinions about the Iraq war. I would let you guys be the judge here and decide for yourselves. I’m only highlighting it because this is something that Jocko’s fan base is not really aware of while it is an important piece of information. Here’s the snippet:
I don’t think my opinion matters in this case as it is quite a sensitive subject to talk about. So I apologize for not sharing an opinion on it, I hope you understand.
The Jocko Willink David Goggins Conflict
This is probably one of the most commonly asked questions:
“Why doesn’t Jocko bring David to his podcast?”
And the simple answer is: They don’t agree with each other ideology.
This is funny because both of their fanbases overlap a lot, especially when it comes to the 20 somethings. Jocko has actually talked about David a number of times, but people still speculate whether David & Jocko hate each other or something. So here’s the whole ordeal:
In 2019, when asked whether he is “ok with David Goggins”, Jocko used a doublespeak maneuver and said, “Yeah, He’s a great athlete.”
Do you notice what’s wrong with Jocko’s statement? I’ll give you a few seconds to figure it out.
Bam, time out. Here’s what’s goign on.
Jocko didn’t address David as a vet or an ex-military guy, instead, he mentioned him as a “great athlete”. He has never addressed David as a SEAL and it is simply because he does not respect David Goggins for any of his military service. He always addresses him as an athlete or a beast. Here’s another instance where he mentioned Goggins:
Don’t get me wrong. He does not hate David at all, he just doesn’t like the way Goggins handled himself during his military service.
While David is all about PT and “callusing his mind”, Jocko is about teamwork. Both of which are polar opposites in the context of a SEAL team. There has also been a lot of controversy about David abusing his title of being a SEAL to get into races, but that’s for another day.
It is not about BUD/S
Many people think that Jocko avoids Goggins because of his exaggeration of BUD/S, but that might not be the case.
David went through BUD/S, three times in a row shortly after losing 100 lbs. in 90 days. So his body was already extremely fatigued and injured. Add the insanity of David’s treatment towards his physical self, and you get unnecessary injuries on top of unnecessary injuries. Whereas Jocko passed through BUD/S in his first attempt. So it is kind of unfair to compare their experiences at BUD/S. However, without explicit confirmation from Jocko, nothing can be said for sure.
Overall, we shouldn’t expect Jocko to bring David on his podcast anytime soon. I do think that Jocko will happily invite David when David starts promoting his next book. Because after all, David has a much bigger fan base than Jocko Willink, Goggins’ Joe Rogan podcast has 5.7 million views, and as a capitalist businessman, he probably wouldn’t want to miss out on that opportunity.
Jocko Might Be A Closeted Trump Supporter
In an interview/podcast with Dave Rubin, Jocko was asked what he thinks about Donald Trump as a leader. Being the clever guy he is, Jocko answered the question in such a way that doesn’t put him in any spotlight from the right or the left. His answer was:
“From a leadership perspective, I think Trump is an interesting characteristic of some really broad extremes. So does things, that I say, ‘Good move’. And literally, 20 minutes later, I’ll be thinking to myself, ‘How can you even, think to yourself this is a decent thing to do?’ And by that I mean, jumping out on Twitter, and criticizing some individual human being or celebrity.”
At first glance, there seems to be nothing wrong with the statement. But the devil is in the details.
Jocko praises Trump as a good leader and his best criticism of Trump is for his derogatory tweets. Really Jocko? Do you think that’s the thing wrong with Trump? Not the leadership? Has he not taken any bad political decisions?
Every time Jocko mentions Trump, he praises him, and right after that, he says something bad about him to cancel out the whole statement. But he never criticizes Trump’s political statements or the actions he took as the President.
Here’s the interesting part, Jocko and Leif heavily criticize Obama’s actions in their book Extreme Ownership, but none of them ever even mention their honest thoughts on Trump’s presidency. Doesn’t that indicate something? Wouldn’t it be better if Jocko took some ownership of his political standings instead of evading questions? What do you guys think?
Jocko’s statements on Trump and Obama clearly reflect his bias towards Right-Wing ideas.
Another evidence of his right-wing pro ideology is the shows he goes on to.
He has appeared on The Ben Shapiro Show, Fox News, Sam Harris’ Podcast, and The Rubin Report. All of these mediums are either heavily right-wing or right-leaning. So it seems to me that Jocko Willink is a right-wing supporter.
It might be shocking for some people and obvious for others, but I think the evidence is pretty clear and we should accept it as a fact. Mr. Willink will never address this publicly because he wants to avoid backlash.
A few other people have also noticed the speech patterns and decipherd Willink’s vague statements. And they landed on the same conclusion. Just look at teh comments on this Jocko Willink Joe Rogan podcast clip:
It is obvious that he is a Republican MAGA guy. But he hides it from everyone with a pile of lies and word salad.
Jocko Willink Supplements Reviews & Opinions
Mr. Willink also has his own supplement line called “Jocko Fuel”. It includes supplements like protein powder, pre-workouts, post-workouts, and white tea. I’ve tried almost all the supplements which the guy sells cause I wanted to support Jocko and cause I’m an idiot.
The supplements are overpriced in my opinion, especially Molk (the protein powder), it does taste good but boy oh boy the price. There are better options for a protein powder available in the market which are used by professionals.
The one supplement which I still use today is Jocko White Tea. It is simply fabulous and it gives me energy for the day. My lifts have gone up and I feel better with a cup of white tea.
The Jocko Go drinks are overrated and there are way better options available in the market. Jocko spends a lot of money in promoting the drink probably because it is a high-margin high-yield product that can generate a lot of profit. You’ll see promotions of the Jocko Go a lot because of this reason.
I’m not the only one who isn’t a fan of Jocko’s Supplements. Here’s a Reddit thread about the same topic:
If you have tried any of Jocko’s products they definitely share your review. It’ll be interesting to see if a supplement works wonders for someone and horribly for another.
Jocko Willink Jeans & Apparel
I have mixed feelings about the apparel Jocko sells.
On one hand you have crazy good t-shirts like these:
And on another, you’ll look like a walking billboard:
I mean… who would actually “buy” a t-shirt which is just an ad for a supplement? Actually Jocko stans might wear that one.
I have bought the “Get After It” & “Jocko Willink Good” t-shirts. They are not bad surprisingly. It is good quality material for the price. Although the graphics or design is not out of the world, I think it is more about the feeling of being part of an exclusive group.
Jocko also sells jeans through his company Origin USA. Not the PC makers by the way.
The jeans are basically overpriced and their main selling point is, “It is not made in China”.
Don’t waste your money on the jeans. It will take ages for you to receive the jeans and it has nothing special about it.
I recommend going for $150 jeans that you can buy from a good showroom. Those last longer and feel much more premium than Jocko Jeans.
This section seems out of place with the rest of the post but here’s why I added it:
I had experience with Jocko’s supplements and apparel, if my experience can help someone decide whether Jocko’s white tea is good for them or not, then it’s worth it. I wouldn’t have bought the Molk protein powder if I had known it was just overpriced protein powder with nothing special in it. H
Let The Flood Gates Open…
I hope this post helped you clarify some things and misconceptions about Jocko Willink. I’m a big fan of the guy but he needs to be more vocal about the errors in his philosophy. People are going into depression and becoming nihilistic because of going cold-turkey, failing, and starting the cycle all over again until they quit all together.
There are much healthier ways to get better in life. Seek therapy, talk to your loved ones, meditate, avoid toxic people, read. Books like Atomic Habits By James Clear and Hyperfocus By Chris Bailey are excellent resources for people who are seeking to improve their lives.
Jocko also needs to stop trying to hide his obvious bias towards the right-wing. This is often very misleading for his followers and fans who are curious about his opinions on recent incidents. But in the end it is his personal business whether he wants to stop lying about his political standings or not.
I hope you understand the points I present in this piece and if you disagree, then please share your counterarguments and opinions. An open discussion about such topics is really important and I think talking about our disagreements and agreements will be a step forward.
Disclaimer (Please Read This Before Commenting)
I originally started this post to help my fellow Jocko fans see the actual downsides of Jocko’s philosophy, however I kept finding more facts and news to cover. It all ended up making this post much bigger than I expected it to become.
I shared the facts and opinions of Jocko Willink here because Jocko himself is extremely dodgy when it comes to politics. He avoids it at all costs. But I saw many people trying to find where Jocko stands on certain things. So I did the digging and got the answers.
Please refrain from name-calling or insults in the comments. I want this post to be a helpful resource for the “Get After It” community, not some random rant. But it is a free country, so all I can do is request politeness.
The Extreme Ownership method of Jocko Willink is ineffective in the long run for most people. It can lead to severe depression and toxicity among youngsters. Jocko doesn't wear masks or practice social distancing and his irresponsible behavior almost cost a 70-year-old vet, his life. He's also a closeted Trump supporter who evades important political queries with word salad and doublespeak. Overall, he is not the perfect guy I thought he was and you should be careful in following his advice.
- Genuinely wants to help people
- Amazing leader
- Entertaining Podcast
- Jocko White Tea is very effective
- Ineffective advice
- Doesn't wear masks
- Evades political questions while supports Trump & Iraq War
- Sells overpriced supplements
You guys are all butt hurt fackkots
Exactly. You read the article and understood the assignment. I read this article while listening to a Jocko podcast talking about what to do if you feel your not being listened too and feel bad about yourself. Everything Jocko mentioned was about not blaming the others for your feelings but looking at yourself and making personal changes. This article writer does nothing but complain about how he feels about what Jocko is saying. He can only tear down instead of build up those around him.
First things first. Thank you for writing this article as it will help a lot of people avoid the pitfalls you point out. I am a strong advocate of taking responsibility for one’s actions; however, not every failure in a person’s life is going to be the result of their own doing. When the blame lies elsewhere, identify it, but do it tactfully. I am grateful for Mr.Willink’s military service to help preserve freedom in this world. People need to be very cautious about trying to emulate Mr.Willink’s lifestyle. We are all wired differently; some, like Jocko, and otherwise. I would wager that the way Jocko is wired is not too common, and that is not meant in a derogatory sense. There are a lot of men who put on a macho facade because they feel vulnerable inside but I believe Jacko is wearing no facade. I trust that what we see is solid to his core. His avoidance of coming right out with his political leanings is purely for business reasons. If he has left leaning supporters, then he would risk losing them if he admitted to being right wing. I am a right-wing conservative and, while I am not in-your-face about it, I don’t deny it. I don’t wear a MAGA hat but am a Trump supporter. As for Islam’s motives, go back and read your history about the Ottoman empire. They were hell-bent on invading the world as they knew it back then. Do Muslims still invade other people today? Yes! it goes on in Africa all the time where non-Muslim people are enslaved by Muslims. Any religion who advocates this entitlement is a treat to any peace-loving/freedom-loving people and need to be dealt with.
I have heard the guy. He is a white supermacist and extremely toxic. If you want to see how a white man can be racist towards muslims, give this guy a listen.
I understand the importance of transparency and honesty, those tend to be the qualities we admire the most in people. With that being said integrity, communication, and honesty are traits that is needed for a good leader, role model, and overall a person who reduces suffering in this world.
It is sad to see that people who are not flawless be considered liars. The fact that we have words such as freedom, bravery, and honor are from many types of individuals. Consider this, in every war that is recorded the winner has much more influence over the history and glorifies the side that has won. The names of heroes and battles are recorded as fact and truth while the enemy lies labeled just that, an enemy. There will always be heroes on both sides.
The point is, people exist on a scale of darkness and brightness and always will. The capability of evil and good have been shown and proven throughout time. Amazingly we recorded outstanding heroes.
Good leadership lasts, Officer Willink is an excellent leader, and he his leadership will outlast him I am sure.
Yeah jocko willink after people stormed the capital building did a bit on George Orwell and not taking our democracy for granted, but interestingly it was all worded so he could have been on the side of the insurrectionists or not, it was kept vague and deliberately so and was ironically in itself very Orwellian. That’s why I think he’s a bit of a snake, he should just come out and say he’s a republican
Interesting you don’t mention blm, leftists storming the capitol building in July 2021, and the breach of the Supreme Court during Kavanaugh. Not to mention 2020 leftist Dems causing injury to over a 1000 police officers across the country and firebombed federal buildings.
I never realized what a cultic following Jocko has until reading this comment section.
This article is a sneaky anonymous hit piece. The author obviously has some broken ideologies and agendas they are pushing by trying and failing to discredit Jocko Willink.
This hit piece has been carefully (but rather clumsily if you know how critically assess it) crafted so that it doesn’t appear as biased as it really is. This dishonest writing style is unfortunately becoming more typical from those with almost religious zeal for their twisted views. These manipulative authors (who are just bad activists, not quality journalists) butter up the reader with a few positive truths, then use false premises, out of context statements and plain made up “facts” to smear people in the hopes that some of the mud will stick.
This is painfully obvious to anyone with even a minimal level of comprehension, and the level of underhanded writing shown in this poor attempt to paint Jocko in a bad light is actually a credit to Jocko’s good character.
It only takes a quick search of the internet to discover there is a pattern at play with these sneakily biased Gripeo hit pieces.
This article isn’t clever, it doesn’t actually “reveal” anything new. It just twists, distorts and misreports information that is easily available on the internet. If you believe the picture it paints then go back to believing in the tooth fairy.
In fact, you can use this article as an exercise in sharpening your critical reading skills… Just go through it and see how many times you can say to yourself, “Oh, I see how the author tried to manipulate me there”. Hint it starts almost immediately by attempting to use the youtube clip in a failed attempt at what is called “third person credibility”.
And you can check the real credibility of the article’s author by…
See what I mean?
I agree. This is a slimy anonymous hit piece by a coward. It’s written as if it was from a junior high or high school kid. He fails at literally everything he is trying to do, even spelling.
We have more important things to worry about than what some 17-year old kid who doesn’t know how to spell ‘going’ correctly thinks about a decorated Navy SEAL’s thoughts on the direction this country is going. The pimple-face dweeb dox’ed the sh*t out of Jocko too.
Re Jocko and Trump, the analysis is easy. If Jocko truly believed in “Extreme Ownership”, he would loudly disavow Trump as a bad leader. E.g.: Trump in the Rose Garden saying “I take no responsibility at all” vis a vis the Covid testing fiasco and lack of response in early 2020 “it’ll just disappear”, etc. That’s the exact opposite of extreme ownership. Jocko will equivocate and dissemble when confronted with the obvious contradictions Trump’s garbage leadership presents. I’d love to hear his excuses re the classified documents Trump apparently purloined on the way out of DC that are just coming to light in 2022. Finally, I have a real problem with guys marketing and profiting from their bird. Although a mustang, he really acts like a cake eater. Not for me or several former deck apes (BMs) that I know.
What whiny naive little kid wrote this article? I’m a big fan of Jocko and I am not a republican. I don’t like Trump either. It’s not a crime for Jocko to not advertise who he supports as potus. In fact…it’s none of our business. Yeah..part of it is he want to appeal to a broader audience.. business-wise.. and also…IT’S HIS BUSINESS!! And he’s being civil. Who are YOU to demand what his politics are???? He can support Trump if he likes…THAT ISN’T A CRIME. I don’t like Trump one bit.. but that’s me. He has his supporters and that’s fine. God…this whole article was embarrassing to read.
Author could definitely use a moment of putting ego aside and reading/listening to some Jocko with an open mind
FUCK YA LIFE BITCH FOR SHITTING ON JOCKO BITCH
If you read this article and agree that Jocko Willink is a bad person, please hear me out for a second. I won’t call you a dumbass, or question your patriotism.
There are hundreds of hours of audio/footage of Jocko on the internet. You will find fault with some of it. I certainly have. For that matter, I look at my own life and don’t like everything I’ve ever said or done. The same is probably true for yourself.
Now this is the thing I would like you to consider: when you read history, read it as though you were the bad guy. Atrocities have always been, and will always be, committed by ordinary people. Stalin, Hitler, and Mao did not personally kill millions of people. They had help.
Think about your own deeply held religious or political beliefs; how much violence are you willing to accept to see those beliefs made manifest? If you disagreed with the Iraq War, would you be willing to kill any politician that voted for it? If you think Donald Trump is corrupting America, would you be willing to kill Republicans in a Civil War to stop him? If you believe Joe Biden is unfit for command, would you be willing to violently overthrow him? If you think Critical Race Theory is corrupting America, would you be willing to kill it’s adherents? If you think police are racist and evil, are you willing to kill them?
For all the bad that could be said about Jocko, this is a constant theme reiterated in his podcast. He has covered atrocities committed by Americans. He has spoken about his own youth and his capacity for violence. He has said that he was fortunate that he could channel that aggression into military service. He doesn’t take sides politically because he truly believes that most of the rhetoric is over-hyped; that most Americans actually don’t want to kill each other and get along just fine. These are all his words, not mine. He has expressed some political viewpoints, but always stops short of full embrace.
His eyes are wide open to the pitfalls of man, and tries to help others see the same. If he’s a cult leader, then he’s the best one you could hope for. One that doesn’t whip people up into a fervor to go out and do his bidding, other than buy his supplements and energy drinks. If you’re already buying that stuff, then he asks that you buy from him instead. You don’t have to buy from him.
You’re a dumbass lol
Mostly conjecture. The author pulls some statements are quotes but draws conclusions.
Not a worthwhile opinion.
Yeah jocko willink after people stormed the capital building did a bit on George Orwell and not taking our democracy for granted, but interestingly it was all worded so he could have been on the side of the insurrectionists or not, it was kept vague and deliberately so. That’s why I think he’s a bit of a snake, he should just come out and say he’s a republican
What’s his stance on COVID-19 vaccination? I bet he’s against that too.
Sam Harris leans Right? What? He’s a traditional Left liberal, both obviously from his positions, and self-described. He supports extreme gun control, robust social safety nets, specialized medicine, etc. He’s just not a progressive ideologue, and he rejects CRT, because it is ahistorical Marxist nonsense, and he is highly intelligent, and extremely honest. He has engaged with Tim Ferris several times, too…he’s interested in self-improvement. That’s part of Jocko’s brand. Got to say, I did enjoy where you listed Jocko’s probable support for Trump as an inherent character defect. Subtle. 😆
Look the Author is a typical shyster. Jocko is a mask wearer which proves Jocko isn’t big on science and statistics or the Constitution. Rogan doesn’t test all his guests that’s BS and Rogan doesn’t mask unless forced.
The Author proves what a political communist he is by trying to insinuate the Asian man got Covid from Jocko. To ignore the number of people that Asian man was around or pretend to know is communist.
I stopped reading when the author summed up Extreme Ownership as a way to blame the self for everything. That’s not Extreme Ownership. EO is taking a non-egotistical look at your life, experiences, and habits through a lens void of ego. It’s an assessment of what you can and cannot control, understanding how relationships improve interaction, and being aware of excuses so that they don’t control you. Extreme Ownership does not teach self-pity, it doesn’t teach you to beat up on yourself for your shortcomings, and it doesn’t tell you to allow people to treat you like crap. EO presents you with an opportunity to move forward and improve what you can. If you can’t improve it, find a way out or find a way up. Not completely sure that the author read any of his books if that was the initial assessment. Good luck.
So many people are commenting “oh Jocko changed my life so he must be a good guy”. They don’t realize THAT’S HOW CULTS WORK!!
Those people are willing to overlook his faults as if Jocko Wilink is free from criticism because he helped them. Some of you guys aren’t even trying to defend his negative points.
Like, the writer of this post pointed out how Jocko doesn’t wear masks when there’s a literal pandemic going on and you just don’t care?!!! If it had been Trevor Noah or some other guy you guys would have hopped onto the opportunity and said “Oh look, he is putting lives in danger”.
So many people have suffered because of narcissists like Jocko Wilink who can’t be bothered to wear a mask in public. I mean I don’t care if you’re on the left or right, there’s a thing called humanity and regard for others, which is clearly absent in this man!!
Couldn’t have said it better. These people are hopping onto their keyboards and defending him without realizing that he is a narcissist who doesn’t care much about other people’s lives.
Jocko is a fool. People who buy into his “13 step program turned on its head” BS are fools too. Nothing he has to say is original, you just lap it up because it’s so tasty when it’s served up on shiny boot leather – Merca… Is Jocko a conservative? Who knows, but he obviously feels that they are a big part of his income. Have sheep – will fleece – color doesn’t matter. He will fleece you all. Guess what, I wake up every day at 0400, that’s 30 minutes before Jocko, does that make me better than anyone else? I don’t know, but look at my watch – Don’t you want to buy one? Yeah,,, some of you do or have. Jocko thanks you for buying,
The SEALs may be a small part of the tip of the spear, BUT there is a big fat f*cking shaft that tip rides on, and Jocko and his ilk seem to forget that they don’t get to go play war-hero without that giant shaft behind them. In fact that shaft is so big and fat and hard it can penetrate just fine without the tip most of the time… Jocko is selling out the US military, the SEAL teams and everyone else to make a buck and cheapens he service, and worst of all the fallen who don’t get to write books and sell fancy tea. He didn’t fly his own chopper into battle, or pilot his own attack submarine… Hell, the spear doesn’t even get thrust until free American civilians tell it that it can be thrust into battle. He would be nothing without the ground he stands in which he didn’t win on his own, if at all… He fought for Halliburton if I remember it correctly. The horrors of real war have zero place in the board room. For real – if your manager ever hires someone like Jocko to motivate your workplace and it is not a military unit – quit.
Seriously, if you need yet another jarhead in your life telling you that you are worthless and weak and can’t motivate yourself without measuring your sad little self against a sellout like Jocko, do yourself a favor and go join up for real. Tell them you need a big strong man or woman in your life and can’t function without being told to function… They’d love to help you. Really help you… And when you’ve had a successful career, retire and shut the hell up about it. Hero’s don’t brag and they sure as hell don’t sell blue jeans and fancy shakes… *eye roll*
Boy, did you get it right “an inch of shaft”. This guy is ridiculous. His life is one, big publicity campaign, to attempt to hawk products on the internet. His “followers” are mostly PAID bots, and he lies about nearly everything. All he wants to do is sell bad products. If anyone believes that he uses energy drinks and protein powder to create his appearance, they’re a fool. The guy is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT FILLED WITH STEROIDS. He even has gynocomastia that is visible in every photo from his steroid use. His paid “followers” flood every chat board and social media platform to create an illusion of celebrity. He is not a celebrity, and next to no one is buying any of his crappy products. This guy is a NEO-NAZI SKINHEAD FROM CONNECTICUT, a racist, and has sounded clinically ill when he speaks since he was a child. He’s a Proud Boy.
Seriously the fact that you commented on the mask just kills me…as if wearing a mask defines people.
Also, I think his extreme ownership philosophy is bulletproof. I cannot understand how it can be perceived or applied negatively.
Thank you for your post as it is obviously well thought out and researched, but I definitely disagree with the above points.
For those commenting, how many podcasts where veterans are interviewed have you listened to in their entirety? Put politics aside and listen to the stories of the veterans that have served our country, defending our freedoms as laid out in the constitution and that we try to deliver to others…
Focus on what the veterans have to share, their backgrounds as young people, what the military means to them, why they served, and the good they fought for. Please set aside politics and just listen with an open mind.
Faith in God brings meaning and purpose to human life..
Jocko Wilink is a part of multiple influencers whose target audience is young white males. He is like Jordan Peterson, Alex Jones, and Ben Shapiro. These people have been gaining popularity since the presidential election of 2016. Prior to 2016, no one had heard of these guys. Then all of a sudden, you have these people coming out of nowhere and claiming to “helping others”.
The only people Jocko Wilink or Jordan Peterson help are themselves by making money from their audience. They have a specific audience which has most of the resources of the US and has had them for centuries. So, they really don’t care about expanding their audience. What good would they get if they helped a poor black kid? They know the minorities don’t have much wealth. So, they create content that only their audience can relate with.
It’s sad but true. That’s capitalism for you.
I agree 100%. They are brainwashing others and filling them with hatred towards anyone who disagrees with their political opinion. I’m glad I am not the only one who saw this pattern emerging.
All of the negative comments to include the author have never done anything worthwhile in their lives. They tear down men who have achieved great successful (especially military members) because they know they will never have what it takes to make it in the military. They use political biases and closed minded arguments to further their cause of being nothing and believing in nothing but their own misguided fantasy land.
I say this as a pretty big fan of both Jordan B Peterson and Jocko. We don’t hate you if you feel differently about anything political, and Jocko specifically doesn’t mention politics much at all. JBP does address political things more, and is highly critical of communist and fascistic governments, which is fair to be critical of in my opinion. But if you like those ideologies I don’t hate you.
You must never have heard his views on the Dichotomy of principles. Of course you dont care too because you would rather find fault with someone who makes you feel like a worm of a man. He has courage and you just justify yourself by your hours of research behind a desk. So you probably feel even with him. Wrong. People who have tons of things wrong in their lives probably are to blame for some of them. What is your response? Dont take responsibility because its someone elses fault? Wait for your socialist leader to come take your hand and lift you to ‘equality’? You live in a dream world and while you complain and wait there are many people taking a mindshift and acknowledging there is something they CAN do to change the situation. Thats why America has drawn so many from across the planet. We give opportunities for those who want to work for them. They accomplish their dreams and many came from poverty. So go ahead and waste the opportunities you have and keep trying to bring great people down to your level. Envy hates those that rise above because you think you deserve to be there more.
I hope you stop seeing those that dont agree with you as enemies that you have to cut down. If you have something that is helpful to say…then say it. People will listen if it resounds. But try saying it as a stand alone teaching instead of what you perceive as on top of the rubble of the jocko willink legacy. You will find out if what you say is really helpful by the people that respond. Good luck keeping up jocko and his flaws.
Jocko Willink turned my life around. I would never have the mindset I have today if it wasn’t for Jocko and everyone on his podcast. I was at the rock bottom when I first heard of Jocko. Now I’m self-employed, working from home, Getting After It. Every day is GOOD now.
Thank you Jocko for everything you do, and for making top-shelf supplements, especially Discipline GO capsules! I often talk about them on my podcast!
Look at all the cry babies in the comment section. Your strong navy SEAl hero can’t handle criticism can he? Or is your ego so fragile that you can’t handle a speck of dissent?
I agree with most of the comments in this post. The guy is a danger to society. He puts people’s lives at risk and is motivating others to do the same. If you’re supporting that ideology, then I guess there’s no difference between you and the people he criticizes in his racist podcasts as “terrorists”.
You realize that you just proved that person’s point by giving such a dumb response? Just goes to show how dumb Jocko’s fans really are.
Only thing I agree on with this review is that he could be more open about the prerequisites to self-discipline regarding taking full accountability towards everything.
Otherwise, who tf cares about who he votes for, what he does regarding covid, etc?
Jocko has over a million subscribers on YouTube. The man is a big influencer. It matters who he votes for because most, if not all, of his followers vote for that person too.
And if he supports someone corrupt, selfish, capitalistic, and someone who doesn’t hesitate to put the country’s democracy at risk, then yeah, some people will question him.
When it comes to covid, do you have any idea how many people have died because of it? My grandma died because of covid. Maybe should would have lived if some stupid guy learned how to wear a mask when going out for a stroll.
So yeah, a lot of people care when a guy with 1 million+ subs on YouTube has dangerous opinions on things that put others’ lives in danger.
Your logic has so many ridiculous flaws. Jocko has a million people subscribed to him so that means they all think exactly like he does and vote the way that he does? You might need some therapy or something if you genuinely believe that.
The man is a monster and there are people who are defending him like he is some sort of a god. Please, if a person supports war, he shouldn’t be promoted like this. The review is too soft.
This is the best thing I have ever read about Jocko, because it is (relatively) unbiased. Thanks. Things in life are never “all-or-nothing”. If you totally agree with everything about a guy and defend him reflexively, you are in a personality cult which is highly unhealthy.
Three people who have most transformed my life, and I have never actually met them: God, David Goggins, and Jocko Willink (in that order). I consumed the first 135 episodes of his podcast and read everything. HOWEVER, he is a mere man. I do NOT agree with him on everything, NOR do I feel a need to try to be him or David. I am ME, a unique person, but I have hugely benefited from them, which led to my discovery of Stoicism, which changed my life.
Trump is the ANTITHESIS of everything Jocko teaches, and if Jocko supports him, that is highly disturbing to me. But, I give him a pass because he is merely a man. His content is transformative.
Dude shut up you’re an idiot lol
First, let me note that this commentary is anonymous,as far as I can see. So criticizing Willink on any transparency issues are hypocritical at best. He is talking to the people who strive to excellence and the sheepdogs, not the navel gazers who meditate on the excuses,other people and societal shortcomings, that interfere with their success.
Of course he is more likely on the right. He believes in responsibility, accountability and conscientiousness.
Haha, you guys make me laugh. He is more likely on the right because he believes in responsiblity and accountability. No way. He is on the right because he is white and supports the army, one of the biggest examples of patriarchy in the US history.
Jocko Wilink is motivating people alright but not for the right reasons.
Just look at the hatred these people in the comment section are spreading. No wonder they are delusional.
Jocko isn’t any closeted supporter. He isn’t even a centrist. The guy is a total alt-right leader with little to no respect for other people, their identities, and their lives. I have seen some of his clips. In my opinion, the writer went a little soft on him. There’s no way he is that “great”. And the fools in the comment section will keep supporting him because he preaches the same nonsense their orange leader preaches. Jocko acts all professional and normal in front of the camera. I bet he is one of those supermacists who make fun of other ethnicities and cultures in the dinner table.
Poor guy. If only Jocko was responsible enough to wear a simple MASK he wouldn’t be facing death.
How can guys like Jocko Wilink go to sleep at night?
I checked him out. He is mostly popular on YouTube. That platform has become a haven for such nefarious cultists who spread misinformation and mobilise others into taking harmful actions. Jocko isn’t the problem. It’s the platform. YouTube is turning into the next Parler.
Also, what does Jocko think about the Capitol Riots? Does he blame Trump for it? Does he say Trump is the reason why so many people died in 2020?
Jocko Wilink should issue a public apology for putting that veteran’s life at risk. But seeing that big head of his, I don’t think his ego would allow him to do something like that. The comment section reeks of cultism. Ughhhh
Spoken by a true Girly Man! ????
You can be the ripest, juiciest peach in the world, and there’s still going to be somebody who hates peaches.
Wow…I thought there was only one Alex Jones in the US. Maybe they really are cloning him and making different versions out of him. Jocko “Alex Jones” Wilink. LOL.
Let me guess, he is one of those guys who think Trump won, right?
I bet the people who support anti-masker don’t believe in vaccines too. Natural selection at its best.
Wait. You have a website called Gripe-O and you drag guys like Jocko Willink? No way. What’s the connection between the name of your website and your M.O.?
Jocko’s advice is great. Life-changing if you let it be.
By your logic Facebook would be a book for seeing faces. Shouldn’t you question Facebook for not being a book for faces?
And Jaguar would be a company to see jaguars. Stop watching Alex Jones for a while.
Isn’t this the same guy who supports the Iraq war? He doesn’t have a heart.
Oh my GOD!!! the comment section makes me sick. So many people believe that in a guy that raided the Capitol Hill and is responsible for the current state of our country. 2-digit IQ all around.
I don’t consume his supplements and I can’t talk about his political stands because i’m brazilian. Jocko is helping me a lot, I almost killed myself 3 times after my ex wife cheated on me after working my ass off during 8 years non-stop to give her the best life I could. In this proccess I got fat and sick… after the cheating I was convinced that my life was over. Now, I lost +100kgs just listening Jocko, Goggins and Peterson. They are my heroes.
However: the thing I don’t like about Jocko is the fact everything is JiuJitsu. Had a break up? JiuJitsu! Your car is broken? JiuJitsu. Your dog died? JiuJitsu. I understand the warrior mentality but that is too much. Also, its getting too commercial. And I don’t really enjoy Echo Charles…
This post is absolute dog shit. Did you really say that being accountable makes people depressed? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. Everyone I know that has read this book has improved their life, because they are more in control of their life due to increased productivity. It’s also a really stupid thing to gripe about him not wearing a mask when you probably don’t sanitize your keys, phone, wallet, cards, etc. etc. then rub your dirty ass hands all over everything, effectively cross contaminating everything you touch. Wear your mask, get your vaccine, and shut the fuck up. Let people live their lives the way they want to and stop trying to use the government to force your scientific determinism religion on everyone else. There is a reason people take his advice and not yours. There is a reason businesses use his books and employ his company. Stop being a miserable cunt and do something better with your life. Goodness, you liberal plantation mentality assholes will find ANYTHING to be negative about. Piss off.
All of these people who support this anti-masker don’t realise that Jocko is a businessman. He only cares about his company, Echelon Front and wants to promote its services. I don’t think he would care if you started waking up at 4 in the morning and exercised daily. The only thing that guy cares about is how many companies hire Echelon Front. Sometimes people can be so dense, it’s really infuriating.
The post misses the mark in that Jocko doesn’t just say, “state that it’s your fault” or “take the blame” for everything going wrong. He wants people to own it and find a solution. Just saying it’s your fault and not coming up with a solution is not ownership and it shouldn’t even take a “Jocko” to tell you that concept. So when you start off and say (in summary) people that aren’t strong willed won’t benefit, it’s because you’re presenting the concept of just saying it’s your fault and leaving it at that. There is no productivity because nothing is still getting done aside from lamenting that it’s “all my fault.” Really, when you think of it, if you’re not providing a solution, you’re complaining, and that’s not taking ownership at all. It is definitely okay to criticize a person for sure, but the concept in its entirety is solid. Jocko’s products? Wildly expensive for what you’re buying but we live in a country where you can market anything for any price and if somebody is willing to pay it, that’s what it’s worth. As far as COVID testing for being on his podcast? If the guest complained that there wasn’t any testing or lamented about a lack of testing before appearing, he didn’t have to go on the podcast to begin with. We get to choose where we go. He did too. He could’ve said no. Also, it’s not against the law to be an extreme supporter of either political entity and deeming somebody as evil/wrong/or otherwise for leaning one direction or the other is not only asinine but shows a complete lack of understanding of how free will and the right to choose works not only in this country, but for other countries and places where that’s common place…you know…common place to have your own opinion, be potentially wrong, and have a discussion about why you might be wrong, instead of just lambasting others and stating that your view is correct solely because it came out of your mouth, fingertips on a keyboard, or otherwise. Yet here we are, writing an article like all the answers are from your breath and they’re correct. Oh, and yeah, if you’re a big fat failure at life, it’s exactly your fault. Nobody else’s and it will always be your fault.
Why would that guy wear a mask and protect other people’s lives? He was in the army, those guys are trained to kill smh.
Jealousy runs deep.
I agree with most of the points laid out in the article. Although I support most of what Jocko says, I have to say that being insensitive towards other people’s health is not something I expected from him. It was really disappointing to find out that he could be so careless about others as a veteran. Really disappointing.
Wear masks people! It isn’t hard!
This is one of the dumbest cringiest things I’ve ever read and I’m a libral.
Maybe your reading skills are just as good as your writing skills. Learn to spell “liberal” first then say something.
He belongs to the very same category of people who were responsible for the Capitol attacks. And the comment section for this post just reminds me of the tyranny we have been facing for the past 4 years.
He is a textbook case of a white supermacist. I know I’m speaking into a void here but sometimes you have to raise your voice against the evil. These people don’t realise what kind of ignorance they are spreading. They live in hate and they think it’s okay to judge people based on their race, gender, and whatnot.
Maybe if these people walked out of their cozy castles of hate, they will see the world in a different light. And maybe then they will realise what lunacy they were promoting all this time.
Are you sure you are not holding up a mirror when making those accusations?
Where do you come up with the idea that Jocko’s racist, white supremacist, hateful or a
bigot? He’s usually very straight forward and honest. I’ve never heard a racist word or opinion on the podcast. Please share exact examples to support the accusation’s you’ve made. If anything you show your own racism, bigotry and jealousy by making accusations towards Jocko for apparently being a white successful businessman. He’s also self made, he became a SEAL, he became an Naval Officer and he created his businesses. He took ownership of his situation and made things happen in his life.
So I agree that some people can’t go from 0 to 100 like you seem to interpret Jockos self improvement philosophy to be. But it seems to me he speaks about focusing on areas that need improving, and progressively working to simply … improve. It doesn’t always have to be pedal to the floor full speed ahead progress.
This article makes it seem like Jocko is saying if you want to get better at oushuos you’d best do 1,000 on day one, and just tough through the pain and “get it done”.
The way I interpret much of what I hear from the man is just the ideal of setting a goal and actively, aggressively pursuing it. The idea of “extreme ownership” causing depression is very odd to me. I WANT to own my failures. That is what makes us grow and improve. Are you depressed because you don’t want to acknowledge failures in your life, or the implication that you could be better than you are currently? This sort of has the opposite effect on me. It spurs me to want to improve. It doesn’t have to weight you down and depress you unless you let it do so. And all this said, there are certainly many things outside of our control. We progress with the cards dealt to us. Some things may be beyond our ability to improve sometimes. Does this mean we just, give up or stop looking to grow?
What is your alternative suggestion exactly. I can’t really back the critique I’ve read in this article. You made some points. But most in my opinion lack context or just assumed the absolute most extreme possible definition for what Jocko made have said without leaving room for gray areas or alternative interpretation.
I do agree with you that the mask issue should not be political. It should be scientific. And the science suggests the Covid virus lives on surfaces long after an infected walks by and contaminates it. Going to Walmart with a mask would put that veteran at far greater risk than not wearing one in studio with Jocko. Especially considering the clothe masks are scientifically known not to do much to prevent the disease spread. It becomes political because people want to feel like they are in control of Covid by wearing cloth on their faces, but we aren’t in control here.
Tell me, is it in a liberal debate handbook somewhere to immediately go for personal attacks when you’re trying to intellectually dissect a person’s opinions and views? Trying to discredit Jocko based on a single mask wearing incident, or who he voted for as president? Maybe take your own advice and avoid making things political. Or avoid trying to write pseudo-intellectual articles in the future.
Half the country voted for Trump. So you saying Jocko supporting Trump is a bad thing, you are, in fact, insulting half of the country. Anyone who listens to and follows Jocko and didn’t know his political leanings, has a pretty clear detachment. I listened to him for maybe 10 episodes and knew he was an American. A REAL American. Not a communist like the new “Democratic” party. I think it would benefit you and your readers to research your own party and how you’ve been influenced by the communist party.
Get after it.
The idea of extreme ownership is the taking of responsibility for your action and choices. The example of an unfair boss that doesn’t pay you would never be your own fault. However, your choice in how you deal with and respond to the situation is. If the idea that ones choices and actions have consequences drives someone into the trendy world of “depression and toxicity”, then maybe it should! If holding oneself to a high standard “ruins someone’s life” because of some litany of excuses they want to throw out is detrimental to them, perhaps they need to come to the stark realization that we still live in a country where you have choices and can be responsible for your own outcome.
It’s people like this guy that have caused the deaths of so many people. What’s wrong with wearing a simple mask? He seems like the usual Trump supporter you’d see on the street. I think if he had gotten the chance, he would have joined those lunatics on Capital Hill too.
He and all of his friend are murderers. Period.
You did a good job giving credence to both sides of the issue. I respect that you didn’t just write a slam piece about Jocko but instead pointed out the good and the bad. That balance is something that’s been sorely missing in reporting, where most of the time articles are completely one sided. Please listen to a couple full episodes of his podcast, and you might see a different side of him than you will find on the short clips. There are many times someone will write in with a question and I expect Jocko to answer with a “suck it up, don’t be weak, get after it” type answer, but instead he says something much more thoughtful and reserved, encouraging the listener to step back and take a break. He has addressed the dark side of extreme ownership in multiple episodes and admitted that he wrote The Dichotomy of Leadership because so many people were taking extreme ownership out of context, in many of the ways you described. When I left the military it took a long time for the intensity to wind down and be a “normal” civilian, and I’ve seen Jocko go through the same changes over the years. As for his politics, being on the right is not a crime, nor is being private about your political views. It wasn’t too long ago that it was considered bad manners to bring up politics and religion and most people kept it to themselves. If he sells overpriced supplements and clothing as a way to support the podcast and continue helping young men take responsibility for themselves instead of wallowing in self pity, I have no issue with that but I think it’s good that you pointed out the dangers of falling into a cult-like worship of people like Jocko and Goggins and how it’s easy to throw money at someone you idolize. Your article is an opinion piece, and while I disagree with some of your points due to having seen more sides of Jocko than the average listener to his podcast, I respect you for the fairness of your opinion. Keep up the good writing!
This post is filled with conjecture & projection. What a weak hit piece against a great American. You’re essentially advocating for the weakness within the minds of Americans. Ownership & personal accountability is your saving grace in life. What a lackluster hit piece against someone who put his life on the line while you sit back and bitch about the tough realities of life. Way to promote and insinuate that most people are living worse lives because someone finally told them to sack up. Hope you enjoyed your participation trophy… Here’s a thought? Think his stuff is overpriced, don’t buy it. Don’t like his opinions or advice? Don’t listen to it. Want a military man to be more political so that you can easily typecast his character? Sorry pal, Jocko and people alike don’t navigate their lives based on the opinions and assertions of fools like you. Way to discredit the American dream and spread the negativity you imply you’re above. LOSER
You’re a bitch.
“He DoEsNt WeAr A mAsK aNd HeS a TrUmP sUpPoRtEr.” Geez, get off your high horse. Pathetic review of Jocko and a waste of my time you political hack.
Your post was cringeworthy to discredit jocko. I like the guy and I think his methods are not for everyone however adults should be able to make that decision for themselves.
So what he’s a trump supporter that’s kinda a gimme but only children judge others off there political beliefs.
Didn’t wear a mask……..well neither did the other guy so toughen up. 90% of people in my town don’t and we aren’t all dead, we also aren’t locked down. Sorry but someone lied to you.
Your entitled to your opinion but not your own facts. I think you forgot to mention that with this sideswipe attempt at discrediting Jocko. As a current member of the Armed forces (27 years) I can safely say that Jocko’s leadership philosophy is not for everyone. But that is not to say it doesn’t work for most. If your a victim of the future then nothing will help, well maybe prayer.
Big fan of Jocko. I don’t really like him not taking hard political positions. He’s respected by so many he could influence people politically to do the right thing in plain simple man english. Instead he’s politcally correct. Not sure he’s looked at war in a clear light imho too. Other than those two points he’s absolutely unequivocally awesome.
Jocko Molk is no ordinary protein powder. However, you’ve got to be a meat head bro sicentist whose tried many other to tell this has a little something truly special. I bought chocoloate pb, vanilla gorilla and mint. Love them all.
I look forward to buying his other American made products made the old fashioned way. You get what you pay for including employed Americans for a nice society.
I’m going to be honest I never thought about the “bad aspect” of extreme ownership. I hope people see through their bias towards Jocko and actually understand what this post is trying to convey.
Even if Jocko supports Trump, I think it is his personal business, not ours.
I love drinking Jocko White Tea. It is freaking insane. I’m not gonna go over the whole political thing but you are right about the supplements.
I have tired them all and yes, White Tea is the only one that I still take.
Molk tastes good but the pricing is bad imo. And Jocko GO is just not worth it.
Good analysis mate.
I think you have gone to deep.
I am sure if you reviewed anyone in the whole world you could list their problems, and are far to critical of jocko’s ideals.
The basic idea of extreme ownership is a very healthy and refreshing way to live your life. (Obviously this can become overwhelming if you obsess and blame yourself for everything)
I actually like how jocko does not use this platform to push his political stance, and if you don’t want his stuff just don’t buy it hey!
I don’t care about his political stands, but he should’ve worn a mask in that instance. It is just wrong that he didn’t even address the people who questioned his behavior.
Does he still support Trump? After the Capitol Hill incident? If yes, then he truly is brainwashed by the right wing propaganda.
Woah. I had no idea Jocko was part of the MAGA cult. Well it’s not a surprise to me. No one is perfect. But it’s still a bummer.
Stop, just stop. I love Jocko’s podcast. He has helped me transform me from a whiney kid to a Marine. I listened to his podcasts day and night while I got after it in the gym. Even if he supports Trump, he is an amazing human being.
DOESN’T WEAR MASKS..
THAT’S A CON?
THIS IS A DEMOCRAT MSM ARTICLE.
YOUR A PAID SHILL
OBAMA IS GAY
MICHELLE IS A MAN
This is the problem with liberals.