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The Cult of Hamza Ahmed – Brainwashing young naïve people.

Who is Hamza Ahmed?

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Hamza is a YouTuber, born on 1997, in the UK, who makes content based on self-help, productivity, fitness and relationships. He has over 100k subscribers on YouTube and he has a cult following consisting of mostly teenagers. Hamza sells mentorship / coaching programs.

In this post, I will discuss the good and bad about Hamza Ahmed.

Hamza’s Credentials

On his website there is no mention of his educational background, where or what he studied at University. It is believed he studied Psychology, unknown whether he graduated or not. Either way his credentials are missing and his site is just filler content of story telling with the whole ‘before and now’ narrative.

“but that doesn’t mean he can’t be self taught on stuff and know stuff”

Sure but you’re going on a whim to trust some guy in his mid 20s without any scientific background. He isn’t some meditation guru or a relationship expert. Sure he has an above average physique but that doesn’t make him a fitness expert or a nutrition expert either. Great football players don’t always make great managers (don’t get me wrong, they of course can but the point is being a great player has no effect on being a great manager).

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As for his credibility with attracting women: He claims to have hooked up with a lot of girls from clubs/bars/pubs – while that is definitely plausible especially considering the locations, still the only actual evidence we have of him attracting women is 2 ex-girlfriends. Now I know it’s not easy to show evidence of hook-ups, but he could at least show the many tinder matches blurred out, that he claims to have/get regularly. “Oh I dont need to prove that to you” sure but this is to do with your credibility in the stuff that you claim.

Generic advice that young kids think is incredibly valuable

The “it’s great advice”-guys

To put very simply – this is SUBJECTIVE.
His general audience is young naïve kids and so to a lot of them his advice might seem great when to most older people it probably does not. These young people might think “people struggle to do the obvious stuff so he gives pretty detailed in depth advice for most things”, if someone is struggling to actually apply the theory they know then more theoretical advice isn’t necessarily going to make them take action.
“Overload of information can actually be a problem. Your brain has finite information in a limited space. You get too much advice and it can all cancel to 0. In modern society, we get too much information too quickly and many have attention spans that are very low.”-Naval Ravikant

The “he saved me”-guys

A few people will say that Hamza has ‘saved’ them, and sure perhaps he played a role in doing so. Though his content also hasn’t saved a lot of others. The element of feeling like someone ‘saved’ them, is that they drew enough inspiration from them to create a drastic change – that inspiration can even be got from the largest fake gurus, though there are also a lot more who weren’t positively impacted or had wasted a bunch of money on courses that didn’t create impact. Testimonials usually only show the good side.

The basic message of Hamza’s is good.

Something can be both generic/obvious advice and still be good.
If the main points are things like do focused-work, exercise, meditate, gratitude journal, learn about your craft – then sure that’s all good but there’s also no need to watch multiple vids on that like “how to X”, “guide to X” etc., when it comes to these things be a practioner not a theorist. Hamza as many other self-improvement youtubers do, takes the most popular topics like “dopamine detox”, “nofap”, “quitting social media”, sleep, diet, exercise, meditate etc. and just states obvious things while dragging it out to make the vids a lot longer than they need to be, and sometimes make multiple vids on the same topic. The basic message of Hamza’s is good but to me it’s also no special advice, pretty obvious stuff to me. It’s like with Jordan Peterson, his basic message of don’t just complain, don’t self-victimize, pull yourself together, act and decide well – that’s all good but when it comes to his philosophical talks there is some questionable stuff.

Am I Just A “Hater”?

No. I actually used to really enjoy and watch a lot of Hamza’s content when he had under 10k subscribers on youtube. This isn’t one of those cases where as someone becomes more successful they get more haters. It’s not about “clout” either; I could care less about whether this post gets “clout”, I just want to help people avoid a scam. This is about how as Hamza has grew in popularity, he has become more business-focused and less interested in genuinely helping others. I understand that there will be some people (mostly from Hamza’s cult), who will try to label me as a “hater” or a “loser”, all in attempts to try to avoid the logical issues presented in this piece.  There’s also a high chance that Hamza’s fans will start calling me names instead of trying to understand the point and I understand their POV, they have been basically brainwashed into believing that Hamza has changed their life.

I don’t blame Hamza

Let me make this clear – I do NOT blame him. The fact is there are many other content creators in the same field as him, doing the same thing as him and I don’t blame any of them. While I do think he is making easy money off mostly lonely desperate people, I don’t want to turn this into a debate on ethical issues. I’m just addressing the points and making it aware for consumers. As long as it’s by legal means I don’t blame anyone for making money whatever way it is, the onus is on the buyer to be smart about it. The consumers need to take accountability for their actions as well.

In terms of Human decency, Hamza is probably at average. He’s not necessarily evil for making money the way he is, he doesn’t come across as a terrible human being and that is perhaps why a lot of his younger audience seem to place some trust in him. One should be aware that just because someone isn’t a bad person that doesn’t mean they have your best interest at heart.

Typical Justification given by self-help content creators

“oh im just exchanging time and value for money”

This is the typical justification by the people selling such self-improvement courses, they say they put in a lot of time and effort into creating whatever course/book it is, and sure that may necessarily be true but it doesn’t justify the prices it’s being sold at. You can make the argument if the prices are very low that it’d be like spending it on bettering yourself instead of buying some takeaway food, however in cases like Hamza’s it’s at a lot higher price. Also let’s not pretend that there aren’t genuine helpful people out there who put in lots of time and provide similar-level value or even higher value stuff while charging a lot less or making it all free.

Renowned clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson sells his programs of “Self Authoring Suite” for only $29.90 ($14.95 for each of the 4 separate programs).
Harvard psychiatrist Dr Alok Kanojia sells his full bundle guide at $60 ($20 for each of the 3 separate modules).
Whereas, in comparison, Hamza’s 30min call program is priced at $747 and his 60min call program is priced at $997.

“oh it’s about accountability”

Paid self helps courses are scummy by nature because the whole point of self-help is that in the end only you can do the work and improve yourself. Others are just guidance and there’s a bunch of free content which is enough for people if they actually just apply the stuff. The problem is they do what’s known as ‘action faking’ where they watch these self help vids and it makes them feel like they’re taking action when they’re actually not. The people selling the courses will be like “oh it’s all about accountability, we’re here to make sure you actually take action” but you don’t need to pay to do that, you can get a friend to hold you accountable or you can hold yourself accountable. Ultimately when it comes down to it, you’re going have to hold yourself accountable to do the work – especially when the course is over and how driven you are starts to decrease over time.

“You just don’t understand business”

Pretty much everyone with a Youtube channel wants to attract more viewers. I mean that’s basically the point in having a Youtube channel – so others can see your content. I have nothing against that.

The point here isn’t that he’s making money. Everyone needs a way to make money and it’s not surprising as his audience-size increases that he starts becoming way more focused on the business and caring less about helping others, and so I get why he is making vids on topic of the trends. Striking a balance between growing business + genuinely helping others can be very difficult as the 2 can at often times cross as mutually exclusive. The criticism here is the scummy way that he’s doing it; he’s doing the generic self help toxicity that large based fake gurus do.

Hamza’s response when called out

Hamza had responded in a discord server created by another youtuber (1stman).

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Ad Hominem by Hamza:
Hamza says “marketing tricks lol you sound like a simpleton”, “you sound like a resentful guy”.
Throwing personal attacks because he’s unable to hold a constructive conversation/discussion even as an adult.

Inordinately bad analogy by Hamza:
Hamza says “go complain about every store having a red SALE sign, that’s manipulative too isn’t it?”
Not necessarily because it’s somewhat out in the open and people can still not go into that store or do go in.

Hamza’s comment about healthy foods:
Hamza makes the comparison “that’s like saying why is healthy foods more expensive?”
Healthy foods are not always more expensive, it always varies depending on where. Often times junk food will be priced higher because they’re more in demand. It’s to do with the addictive nature of processed food making you crave more processed foods (involving things like activation of neurons in the gut and dopamine) and so by comparison junk food is being consumed and purchased more, so a lot of people are willing to pay more for them.

Hamza: “a course is like 5-10x a book tbh”
Well no, not necessarily. It obviously depends on the course and the book. Often a well-written book can condense the author’s essential points and knowledge into writing, so can actually be time-saving compared to multiple useless vids dragging out stuff with filler and waffling.

Unequivocally trash logic by Hamza “if my course was overpriced then people wouldn’t buy it”
There are lots of naïve people, desperate people and stupid people who would and do buy overpriced stuff without realizing that it’s overpriced. Lots of people buy overpriced stuff and then later regret it. The logic there is laughable. It’s like saying “if heroin was bad then the people who take it wouldn’t take it”.

Self help in itself isn’t bad

I don’t believe the entirety of the self-help industry is bad. As someone put it: “There must be a BALANCE – both your consumption and action must have a symbiotic relationship, and a combination of both can make self-help something that could prove to be genuinely useful.”

I’m not even saying Hamza’s course itself is bad. I’m saying it’s overpriced as you can most likely create the same change as someone who takes it, without paying $997. Hamza’s site will advertise something like “this price is totally worth it as it will be life changing positive stuff!!”
Whether you pay for some program or not, you still have to put in the work to create an impactful change. Paying hundreds COULD make someone feel like they can’t allow that money to go to waste and therefore be driven to accomplish whatever set goal. The problem with that kind of thinking is that a few years later or perhaps even a few months later, they can lose all that drive and get complacent then start to fall back downhill.

Am I saying to stop watching Hamza?

No. If you like his free content and find it useful as a starting point for self-development then okay. I’m just pointing out his flaws and bringing awareness to the scheming marketing aspect of the paid stuff. As long as you’re not over-consuming his free content then you should be fine.

Now some of you younger guys are probably thinking well watching just Hamza means you don’t have to watch multiple other sources or read many books from 10-20 years ago as you think watching just Hamza means you get all the info from just one source. The problem with that is firstly he says a lot of incorrect stuff – one example being much of his broscience (see below). Secondly, if you’re constantly watching countless vids of his then you’re still spending similar amount of time as you would be from watching multiple different sources – with the difference being less credibility in Hamza’s information.

What I like about Hamza’s content

Though he has his flaws and says some wrong stuff, he also does say some stuff that can be quite motivating for the younger audience. I feel like this is particularly when he’s streaming that we get to see a slightly more genuine side to him probably because it’s not pre-planned vids and so harder to put on an act.
He has also at least admitted he’s running a business (although I do think not admitting that would just make him look even worse)
Hamza and red pill is definitely a step up from black pill.

What I dislike about Hamza’s content

Hamza’s hypocrisy

A few months ago Hamza made a video calling other youtubers frauds for being clickbait – calling others in the same field as frauds can help reinforce the idea to youngsters that you yourself are not a fraud. While Hamza’s basic point makes sense, he also doesn’t seem to understand the other side’s point – which is that self help shouldn’t take over one’s life and have it be their entire personality, potentially leading to becoming egotistical and narcissistic.

Now a few months later he’s doing the same clickbait titles like “why I hate modern women“, “why you should breakup with your girlfriend” etc.

Hamza’s advice can be dangerous to young people

Hamza made a video on how to psychologically manipulate people (in a nice way). The problem with this advice is that you can end up having shallow relationships. It can be extremely hard transitioning all that stuff to an actual connection or feel any affection. The other person ends up having a relationship with a mask, not the real you. The assumed premise for this even being considered a slightly good social tactic is that people only want what’s good from other people – but we don’t always know or even want what’s best for ourselves and others without good values. If you have to plan out a whole mental strategy on how to manipulate her, stopping yourself from texting her when you want to just so she hungers for attention, you are spending a lot more effort and disguising your true self, rather than a guy who is himself and enjoys every minute he spends with the chick as he just does whatever the fuck he wants. At the end of the day she’s the one who has YOU on a leash as she’s forcing you to change yourself for her sake. She’s the one controlling you.

Broscience

If you’re familiar with Hamza’s content then you’ll know he admittedly uses broscience constantly as advice. The problem here is he often says scientifically wrong stuff then tries to play it off with mocking people who ask for source of his broscience. He often mocks people multiple times on his discord lectures for not sharing his preferences or approach or ideas. (Using an IQ bell curve meme doesn’t support your case either)

One example out of many of his broscience here
Within the first few minutes of the video you’ll hear Hamza incorrectly states “The amygdala is the lizard brain”.
It’s common for these self help youtubers, life coaches and ‘gurus’ to throw around random buzzwords that they saw in some random psychology book or article, that they have no idea about. Firstly the lizard brain is just something that was coined by a neuroscientist decades ago who came up with the model of ‘triune brain’. The amygdala is part of limbic system which is also known as the mammalian brain or paleomammalian cortex. The lizard brain is the reptitilian brain or the reptilian complex.

Now someone might come to his defense that “oh he probably didn’t fully understand it at a scientific level but what he inherently means is right”. If you don’t scientifically understand topics literally to do with science then it’s best to just avoid talking on it instead of acting like you know what you’re talking about. It would be better to watch an expert talk about it and yes there are videos where experts explain things simply, for instance Robert Sapolsky explains the same topic clearly in a ‘Big Think’ video. “Oh but Hamza basically said the same thing as Robert Sapolsky” the difference is Sapolsky knows what he’s actually talking about and doesn’t state anything wrong.

Toxic self-help marketing nature

If someone is selling you something then it would make sense that they’ll try all the strategies to get you to invest in their product. Here are some of the strategies use:
-give some mediocre free content which naïve people will think is decent, while having links to the paid stuff below the vid.
-pretend to have viewers best interest
-relate to the hopeless people by talking about the past version of yourself “I WAS lonely, depressed etc.” Hamza uses this technique frequently by referring to himself as “Younger Hamza”.
-then give the hopeless person some sense of hope by talking about how you changed your life around. Hamza does this by showing some pic of himself as a skinny kid before puberty compared to now with a more muscular physique and abs
-use the psychological trick known as “Charm pricing” to sell stuff by having prices end in “7”
-have a website with some motivating stories, have positive testimonials
-tell them you will refund money back if they didn’t like the program (makes the viewer think they have nothing to lose in purchasing it)

Note: Refund procedures are not always so straightforward as you might think it is.

See the similarities in this typical scheming

https://hamza-ahmed.co.uk/hamza-mentorship
https://www.caseyzanderhealth.com/

Casey Zander is another 20-something year old who has no mention of his qualifications on his site, with psychological pricing of having prices end in “7”, showing positive testimonials, showing body transformation pics and finally selling an overpriced program.

It used to be pick up artists selling overpriced courses/coaching to lonely guys and now it seems to have moved onto self improvement. Even RSD (Real Social Dynamics) moved from pick-up artistry to self help because they realized self help has a wider margin and includes dating & relationships, so more profit in selling courses for that.

Regarding the testimonials on his site

Firstly, aforementioned – testimonials usually only show the good side.
The testimonials he has displayed is an extremely low sample size. I’m sure there will be some of his followers saying there’s a lot more that he’s not showing, but it’s way more likely that there are a lot more disappointed testimonials that aren’t being shown. Also showing random cropped whatsapp messages cannot be trusted as testimonials of integrity.

The “I used to be like that” technique

The whole “I used to be like that too” is a psychological technique which attempts to push the narrative that the other person is wrong and that you’ve ascended.
Someone else can easily use that same technique on Hamza himself. Example: “I used to have a similar scummy business mindset to Hamza a few years back until I reached a point of financial freedom, so I completely get where he’s coming from. Give him a few more years and he’ll probably switch out of it to a new source of income”

Why do people find it hard to change their beliefs?

The science: When you have a belief and you reaffirm yourself of it or find something supporting it, you get some dopamine release it. People get a dopamine hit from the “I’m right” feeling.

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A lot of these young people have been following Hamza for months or years, so it’ll be hard for them to change their mind. Take for instance, Floyd Mayweather and Conor Mcgregor, they have even assaulted people and yet still have countless fans supporting them.

Psychology 101:

Brandolini’s Law – it takes more energy to refute bullshit than to produce it, the world is left with a lot of unrefuted bullshit.

The Messiah Effect – most people don’t believe in ideals, but in people that believe in those ideals.
In political campaigns, people often vote based on the person’s characteristics rather than the intricacies of policy.

Countering broscience: Hitchens’s Razor – what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. If you make a claim, it’s up to you to prove it, not me to disprove it.
Russell’s Teapot – If you believe there is a teapot flying around the moon, you have to prove everything because your counter can’t disprove it. Burden of proof lies upon a person making empirically unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others. (Read Karl Popper if you wish for more info about falsifiability of claims)

Advice for Hamza’s audience

I understand where most of Hamza’s fans come from and I have great empathy for them. A lot of these people are sick of being stuck in their life due to their bad habits and destructive tendencies. But an overpriced course is NOT the answer, nor is over-consuming his content.

What do you mean by brainwashing?
Brainwashing, alternatively termed as mind control, menticide, coercive persuasion, thought control, thought reform, and forced re-education, revolves around the notion that specific psychological methods can influence or manipulate the human mind.

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Since most of the people in his cult/discord server are kids close to his age, they probably just relate to him more and so his content might be a good starting point for them. My advice for these kids would be to not take everything he says at face value and to not be attached to consuming his content, turn off notifications about a new vid, limit yourself to about 1 vid of his per week instead of daily following his stream and all his uploads. And most importantly actually apply the useful practical advice you learned. – Now this may sound like obvious advice to a lot of people but considering most followers of Hamza are young and naïve, that probably needed to be said.

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Hamza Ahmed Review 2021 Verdict: Manipulative Sales Man

Hamza tries to portray himself as someone who wants to help people, all the while he tries to manipulate vulnerable people into buying his exorbitant course. He doesn’t have any credentials as a behavioral therapist or psychiatrist or anything close to the sort and thus, is nothing but a quack in that manner. Don’t jump into buying his courses. Firstly before making such a purchase, why not watch a bunch of his most recommended videos and actually apply stuff then you can get some kind of view on his mindset/thought-processes. If you’ve tried everything and tried cheaper courses and still found no change and you like Hamza’s way of thinking and you strongly believe that Hamza can change you for the better and you’re also wealthy enough to splash huge amounts of money around then and only then should you even consider buying his course. His free content is okay but I would strongly advise everyone to avoid his courses.

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    i would like to know what your opinions are on his recent content on both his channels (november 2023)

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    • I’m not OP but here’s what I think – I’ve just randomly decided to see some of his recent content after wondering if there’s any value in it and to me it’s still very basic stuff, which is fine if you’re new to self improvement. If anything it seems more commercialized.

      I imagine OP isn’t too bothered about the channel content and would see the “adonis school” stuff as more of the issue as it’s a continuation of the grifting that Hamza was doing a few years back.

      OP did say this: “Am I saying to stop watching Hamza?
      No. If you like his free content and find it useful as a starting point for self-development then okay. I’m just pointing out his flaws and bringing awareness to the scheming marketing aspect of the paid stuff. As long as you’re not over-consuming his free content then you should be fine.”

  2. What hamza is offering will never be worth a monthly payment. The discord is not in any form immediate value, and any value you derive from it you can easily gain from learning yourself without giving someone over a grand per year. There’s a reason Adonis school is targeted towards young teens. If you’re a young teen, don’t get trapped in this mindset. Use your money on a gym membership, and invest the extra that you’d have to otherwise pay into the discord. You’ll end up being better off. If Hamzas videos aren’t enough for you, the discord isn’t going to be some magical thing that gets you over the hurdle.

    Nowadays his content has too much promotion of his Adonis School. Sure, he has to make money, and creating content around a product is not bad. That’s part of his business model. But I have watched maybe 2 of his recent live streams and heard 4–6 promotions of his Adonis School, while most of the time he was messing around with his community by doing silly things. Therefore, not a lot of value, and that’s not something I want to watch. Also, I had joined his adonis school so I have first-hand experience, whether you want to take my word for it or not is up to you. I’ll preface this by saying this was from my observation – people in the adonis school server were still unproductive, but now they were just unproductive on the private Discord server. Sure, there was also a small productive side on there, but besides clapping each other on the back for some silly task you managed to achieve and/or giving advice to someone in need, there was no actual element of improving yourself directly. You would improve by doing the work, not by sitting in a Discord Server (mentally masturbating) and thinking you’re productive. Sure, the community of like-minded people may seem enticing but you can also find that in other places very easily, like Gyms, Universities, and LinkedIn. Any “hotspot” that is for improvement.

    I’d say the adonis school program is not the solution to your problems. Since it is targeted at more of the beginners of self-improvement, eliminating distractions will help you the most if you’re starting out. Notice that his adonis school program doesn’t have different pricing tiers. He could have one free one, or a 7-day one to test the program out and see if it ACTUALLY HELPS, and then just increase the price to obtain more access to more high-value information.
    But he doesn’t do this, presumably because he realizes a lot more people would see through how his program isn’t worth it overall. Also, his adonis school program has an affiliate system integrated in it. Much like many of Tate’s previous programs, there are quite a few people who are more successful in promoting Hamza’s program instead of achieving success through the content within it.

  3. The adonis school is basically just a way to gratify in feeling good about “being in a self-improvement group”

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    maybe he improved your life, maybe he didn’t.
    maybe you find his content valuable, maybe you don’t.

    None of that matters and as some others have pointed out, it’s subjective to each individual. What a lot of the comments in this article and the article itself are pointing out is the grifting element to what he’s doing.

    Grifting simply means he’s ripping people off. $499 entry fee then $99 per month, yeah that’s ripping people off and from the looks of it it’s mainly young desperate dudes being ripped off. A lot of the critics here are simply pointing that out, not every critic is necessarily “jealous” or a “hater” or “angry”

    - CONS: ripoff
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    The thing is a lot of people defending Hamza (such as the post below) are responding with their beliefs about how other people’s criticism is hating or envy and then giving their notions about how they think people should spend their time. And there’s nothing wrong in having beliefs or notions regarding these things but they’re not necessarily based upon truth. If you were truly interested in the truth of the matter you would thoroughly examine and dissect everything that’s being said. So once again, if you really want to know the truth about whether adonis school can help you then thoroughly examine the talking points here, see which points actually got refuted and which points did not.

    I do find it funny when people say they have “words of wisdom” for others and then spout out surface-level stuff which give no profound insights. Anyway, if people were interested in the truth of something and were actually thinking for themselves then they would sincerely examine everything said here rather than just kneejerk responding generic improvement-mindset lines about using time in a way that aligns with their having-to-be-productive thinking.

    But instead they’re attached to him. Maybe they feel he helped motivate them to be more consistent with exercise or something, whatever it is they’re attached to him and so when they see an article or post which deconstructs Hamza’s “logic” that feels like an attack on their worldview (since their worldview too has been influenced by Hamza).

    What pretty much all these self improvement courses and programs are doing is selling ‘hope.’ There’s no absolute GUARANTEE that even if you do all the hard work and commitment that you will truly arrive to wherever you desired. To which the immediate response from the sellers is usually along the lines of “well it would increase the chances of getting there if they constantly take the action” – but if it’s not an absolute guarantee then it would not be wise to pay more than a certain amount for it, if it’s just about playing a betting game of “increasing the chances” then one is better off not paying anything to anyone else. When someone buys something materialistic from a reliable source the difference is there’s a guarantee that they get the thing they bought. So it must be understood that the sincere individual that truly wishes to get somewhere would start by committing years to truly getting to that somewhere through utter devotion rather than buying some program or course to rely on.

    + PROS: Promotes some healthy habits even if it is mostly for personal reasons
    - CONS: Grifter Charlatan Snake oil salesman
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    I like Hamza. He has genuinely had more of a positive influence on my life than negative. Sure, it’s probably due to me never hearing basic self-improvement habits and philosophies in my life previously, but I appreciate him introducing me to those concepts, and really giving me the proper motivation to just take my life more seriously.

    That being said, I am not going to defend some behaviors that many people in this thread deem to be “grifting”. At the end of the day, people can do whatever they please with their money. If you are dumb enough to pay Hamza $500 plus $99 a month for a community, when he has already provided pretty much everything you need to improve your life for free from his YouTube videos, then thats completely on you. I don’t blame him, and can’t say that I wouldn’t do the exact same thing. It sounds like many people in this thread think that a person should just give everything they have to offer for free to the world, and never desire any compensation for their services. I’m not mad at Hamza for wanting to sell himself, especially knowing how much of an influence he has over people. He has hundreds of videos with life-changing advice sitting on YouTube for literally free. If he wants to make some additional cash, he honestly deserves it. It genuinely sounds like most people in this thread are just salty that he’s making money.

    Some words of wisdom for anyone reading this: he’s just a YouTuber. He doesn’t know you exist, and doesn’t give a fuck about you, nor should he. Take whatever advice of his you deem to be good, and leave the rest. If you feel like he has nothing more to offer you, then stop watching his videos. This applies to any influencer/celebrity you will ever see in life. I promise you, its much easier on yourself to not take everything you see on the internet so seriously. The fact that this thread even exists is kind’ve laughably sad. Take his advice, get off social media, get off the internet, go take a walk, write down your goals, and start working hard to make them happen. I promise you, ten years from now if you actually took the advice, you wouldn’t be on some thread or in his YouTube comments hating, because life is short and it’s a waste of time to be angry at a guy who’s making money, changing lives for the better, and doesn’t have a clue who you are.

    I really hope whoever is reading this achieves everything you want out of life. It is attainable. But you won’t get there mindlessly surfing the internet, or obsessing over a self improvement guru. Good luck in your journey.

    + PROS: Really inspires to take action Comes off genuine Has given great advice if you want to follow the same YouTube formula he's done
    - CONS: Can contradict himself
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      1st paragraph –
      This is an anecdotal claim and subjective personal experience. That’s fine to have but it’s nothing substantial as a point for others since there’s no empirical evidence to back it up and so not really relevant to others.

      2nd paragraph –
      “people can do whatever they please with their money” –
      No one is denying this. You seem to be missing the point. Yes people can do whatever they please with their money but the point is that a lot of these people are young people who don’t necessarily know what is in their best interest. They don’t necessarily know the best way for them to spend money optimally. To go further – Just because someone finds a course or program valuable at a young age that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll look back it as valuable when they’re older. And just because someone finds it valuable that doesn’t necessarily even make it truly valuable to them as they may not have realized there was an easier free way to get the same value and wasn’t much time consuming. And so what one sees as logical in the moment isn’t necessarily truly logical in the big picture.

      “then thats completely on you” –
      The article does literally say “the onus is on the buyer to be smart about it. The consumers need to take accountability for their actions as well.” So we all get that there’s responsibility on them but to say it’s completely on them when a bunch of them may be young and naive and therefore likely easier to be manipulated or enticed into buying garbage then saying it’s completely on them is a bit of a stretch.

      “I don’t blame him” –
      There is literally a section in this article called “I don’t blame Hamza” where it goes on about that.

      “It sounds like many people in this thread think that a person should just give everything they have…” –
      Which comments exactly do you think sound like that? Be more specific instead of just vaguely saying many people. Say which comment by which person and elaborate on how exactly it sounds that way.

      Also you may have interpreted the tone of certain comments in a particular ways such as you thinking that most people in here sound “salty.” It’s understandable why you may interpret tones in way since most people are conditioned to view whatever’s said based on their representation of what they feel about said thing (i.e. getting a certain “vibe” from it) rather than how it really is. There’s nothing right or wrong in interpreting the tone in any way, it’s just that it’s not necessarily the truth. Sometimes people naturally have a read of tone but it doesn’t really matter in this context because things like reading other people’s motive or tone in this particular context is irrelevant and has more subjectivity to it, and therefore if one is more interested in the truth then there focus is more on what was actually said and the points the other person is actually trying to make. Whereas otherwise if you focus more on the tone then it’s like, you think it’s salty or bitter or passive aggressive or whatever and the other person tells you it’s not, then maybe you might say you don’t believe them and the whole convo goes nowhere. That whole thing is essentially going based on feelings and diverts away from the actual points and is unfalsifiable. And if it’s unfalsifiable then it’s not really worth discussing. And the only reason I’m discussing it now is to explain its futility.

      “He has hundreds of videos with life-changing advice” – More subjective opinions.
      “he honestly deserves it” – More subjective opinions.
      Nothing wrong with having these opinions, it’s subjective ofc. But that’s the point it’s subjective to the individual and not necessarily objective as true.

      Third Paragraph – This is a whole paragraph of generic advice.
      Again nothing wrong with generic advice but not really anything substantially worth posting if nearly everyone has already heard this sort of stuff “go take a walk, write down your goals, and start working hard” like over a million times.

      “Take whatever advice of his you deem to be good, and leave the rest” –
      This is common sense, like it’s pretty self-explanatory that a person is only going to take whatever they think is good and leave whatever they think isn’t. And it’s like a worse wording than Bruce Lee’s quote “Absorb what is useful. Discard what is not. Add what is uniquely your own.”

      “The fact that this thread even exists is kind’ve laughably sad.” –
      Again this is your subjective opinion. And someone else might say the fact that self improvement content exists when people can’t just improve by themselves is laughably sad. The self improvement content may help someone to hit the gym or whatever and this article may help someone else to realize that they’ve been buying courses that have done nothing for them or that they’ve been watching content that has done nothing for them. Once again, it’s all subjective.

      “you wouldn’t be on some thread or in his YouTube comments hating because life is short and it’s a waste of time to be angry at a guy who’s making money” –
      Not sure who here is hating or angry but it seems some people will immediately jump to the conclusion that other comments are written out of outrage of anger when in fact they were simply just pointing out Hamza’s grift. It is certainly plausible that these things were said out of outrage but you don’t KNOW that, for all we know it could’ve simply been someone who found writing this article or comments on this article out of simple pure enjoyment, it could be OP’s way of having fun (I’m not saying that is the reason. I’m saying it COULD be that), or it COULD be some other reason. And since there is no way of telling, the COULDs are all speculation. And you may say if that’s the case then it’s “sad” but again that would be your opinion. I’d also add that even if one was outraged while making a comment it doesn’t mean they can’t make a factual statement while being outraged. Being outraged doesn’t suddenly change the meaning of what’s actually being said. Being outraged isn’t mutually exclusive with truth.

      Also regarding “waste of time” –
      It’s not surprising that the “advice” of spending time in some particular way that the advice-giver thinks is worth spending time, is incredibly repetitive advice since the majority of what gets preached in the self improvement spaces are regurgitated.
      The thing is these people who have gone so far down the self help rabbit hole, they think that you absolutely have to spend your time in a particular way or otherwise it’s a waste. How one spends their time “wisely” is subjective, In fact if that’s your way of thinking then even replying to my comment isn’t time spent wisely. And sure your comment may not be long but still the very fact that you even reply to my comment about how it’s a waste of time is by your own very logic a waste of time. As long as you’re truly at peace doing whatever it is then fine spend your time however you want.

      People who have made it big can afford to spend their free time how they want just like how Elon Musk “wastes” his time trolling on twitter while also being one of the financially richest person in the world. Now I’m no Elon, I’m just using him as an example to support the point that it’s still entirely possible to work hard and still “waste time.” The average joe isn’t Elon so it’s understandable why they may be so concerned with notion of wasting time. To make it clear I’m using him as an example, NOT as justification as how you should spend your free time. Self improvement junkies are too caught up in personal beliefs and opinions of productivity and how people should spend their time. Even if you have this mindset of thinking people should spend time in a particular way, it’s still entirely possible to work hard throughout the day while spending a few hours or the last 2 hours of the day to make long comments, as opposed to just sitting in the grey area of not really working and not really playing (such as just binge watching self improvement videos)

      “changing lives for the better” –
      I don’t know who in there is actually improving their lives as it’s all anecdotal claims. Even if they genuinely thought they were improving it could be an exaggeration which is common among younger people believing they’re massively improving in life and then as they age they realize they weren’t really improving to any substantial degree and therefore it’s perhaps not worth the money if it’s something they could’ve achieved with the same effort without paying for these courses. Even if a few of them are improving their lives, not everyone paying for it is improving their lives as there would most likely be around 400 testimonials who would show their gratitude if their lives were “transformed” as opposed to like a few testimonials every once in a while. Therefore even simple logic deduction can conclude that not everyone who are considering to pay for it will improve their lives or benefit from it. Thus “the other” perspective is to allow people to examine things for themselves to have a more informed decision as to whether it’s likely to actually help them or not.

      Final paragraph
      “I really hope whoever is reading this achieves everything you want out of life. It is attainable.” –
      In a sense, everyone already gets what they wanted besides from natural disasters. Because all of one’s actions are in a sense reflections of their strongest internal desire in the moment of each action.

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      See this is the thing about those kind of posts that try to defend Hamza. It’s nearly always some personal opinion and jumping to speculations about what they think.

      I don’t expect people who aren’t interested in the truth of this to read all that (I expect them to just say it’s too long didnt read). Only those interested in the truth of this would read it all.

  7. Don’t waste your money on Adonis school or other Hamza courses.

    Even if you’re a stupid kid who is interested in them, you can get them all for free on certain discord servers where people have recorded Hamza calls from the adonis school and they have all the courses saved.

  8. A deep dive into Hamza’s adonis school and grifting and greed:

    -There are other channels that provide similar information for free with creators who have more experience.
    -The personalized instruction from Hamza is limited and it is unclear if it is a one-on-one or group call.
    -There are free communities and Discord servers in the finance space where people can interact and share interests.
    -The Adonis “Community feeling” can be accessed for free through YouTube comments on Hamza’s vids and discussions with like-minded individuals.
    -The content offered by the Adonis School seems to be generic and already available for free on YouTube.
    -Paying for career guidance is unnecessary. Choosing a career based on personal strengths and interests is going to be more important.
    -The primary benefit seems to be the support network and community.
    -There are alternative uses of spending money on self improvement courses such as spending it on investing, education, and business expenses.
    -There’s random capitalization and lack of clear answers in the frequently asked questions section of his adonis school page.
    -The gimmick of paying for his private school is that you get access to him and he’s great? The point about paying to interact with him laughably is like onlyfans.
    -The price of Adonis Academy kept increasing with each new member.
    -Hamza removed mostly low-paying members, even if they were active. The decision was motivated by the desire to maximize profits and accommodate a larger community.
    -Hamza fired his editors in 2023 to save money, which is understandable but also questionable.
    -Hamza originally created a YouTube course priced at $999 with a one-year money-back guarantee.
    -There’s a fake countdown timer on Hamza’s new landing page for the Adonis school.
    -Hamza profits from both the community commissions and Thrivecard affiliate marketing, creating a conflict of interest.
    -Hamza’s sales page is designed to hook customers and make them imagine their dreams coming true, but at the bottom, it states that the community is only effective for those who already have a business or social media following. Thrivecard is deemed useless for those without a significant following, and a refund may not be guaranteed.
    -Hamza previously claimed he would quit YouTube to learn fighting in Thailand, but that never happened.
    -Hamza sells the dream of retiring parents by making a lot of money. But a lot of parents don’t care about money, they care about spending time with you. Time spent with parents can be more valuable than chasing money.

    I remember a year ago when I was watching his videos, he said that his best “fans” were actually the ones who got his message of dopamine detox, cut out any bad habits, and left his channel, never returning to it. So the fact that I see so many kids who waste time regularly watching his videos and defending him is kinda pathetic, because not even he supports them doing this. He may know what he’s doing is wrong, but perhaps the amount of money to be made from these kids is too tempting.

    I remember a video called “I don’t watch Hamza anymore”, and I hadn’t watched him in a while so I clicked on it and he basically said his job is done, he got you from level 0 to level 1, his purpose is done, he even said now you go onto other guys who know more about fitness (which is funny because months later he proceeds to call fitness influencers dickheads & not to watch them). I remember in that video where he said he filled his purpose & that he let his editing staff go, that he would only upload again when he had valuable stuff to talk about, and the comments were flooded with “I will try and be productive without your daily videos”, that’s action faking, watching something that gets you to feel productive is not the same as actually being productive. Eventually you shouldn’t need to watch that stuff, being motivated should become a habit, and it’s not like there’s anything new in each vid anyway, the message was literally always the same.

    Even if he were to hire top professionals who are experts in areas such as careers, fitness, and leadership to teach, it still would not be worth the money at all, considering you can find said professionals teaching on the internet for free. And IF he gets teachers who’ve actually had experience & education in those fields, then why does he say that you will be taught by Hamza & not some randoms on the home page? There’s many holes in any potential logic behind what he’s said on the home page & the benefits of joining. If he has actual teachers, that’s something he should have mentioned, that’s not something you should have to pay an absurd entry fee for to find out, that’s bad marketing on his end.

    His adonis school page is very vague, I think he may have seen how lucrative Andrew Tate’s hustlers university was and tried to replicate it and put his own spin on it. Paying for vague info is never good. And no, not everyone would do the same if they had his size of following. Some of us have a thing called morals so wouldn’t go down this sorta path.

    Also you don’t need to make an investment/purchase to know it’s bad. You don’t tell stock traders “you can’t say that’s a bad investment when you’ve never made that”, I don’t need to invest in the Aussie dollar to know it’s a bad investment right now. The engineers who analysed the recent titan sub disaster didn’t need to go inside the sub to know it was a bad idea (yes some were in earlier rides but a lot did the analysis beforehand based on the facts). If you can’t get a good gauge of the value you’re getting before joining, then that’s either 1: bad marketing or 2: it shows it’s not worth the money

    Don’t just trust the testimonials of a bunch of impressionable 16 year-olds. Reviews from a bunch of inexperienced teenagers who don’t think for themselves, and simply slurp up anything Hamza says (it’s natural for a child to do this, they take in anything anyone of perceived authority says, and never question it). Therefore, they’re “experience” with Adonis school is one of the very few they have, and their judgment is possibly skewed by bias, as seen with the fanboyism. Hamza is only good at getting a bunch of young guys from level -1 to baseline, you won’t become a successful on his advice and teachings alone.

    I have no issues with engineers/doctors/ nurses/software developers etc. making good money, they’re providing a valuable service to society, the same way Hamza is with his improvement for some young boys but again, it’s the cost that is absurd. And sure people are paying heaps to speak to celebs or to go to their concerts but that doesn’t mean it’s worth it either. And that doesn’t negate whether Hamza’s program/courses are rip offs. Also when you were pay for a concert at least you know that you’re going to hear music from the artist you paid for, whereas with Hamza’s program you’re paying for something that isn’t absolutely guaranteed even if you “commit” and “work hard.” There’s a difference between a hope and something that’s guaranteed.

    I think he hasn’t lost a considerable amount of members yet since it’s so new, give it a few months, some guys have come to realise it lately & I’m sure that’ll follow suit soon.

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    People really need to ask themselves that If someone has something truly valuable then why would they feel the need to resort to trying to convince others to buy it. That’s what marketing essentially is trying to do – and yes someone can have something valuable but convince others to buy it just because they want money in return – but that’s exactly the point, they’re marketing it for the sole purpose of selling rather than for multiple reasons of wanting money and trying to help others and whatever else they claim. There’s nothing good or bad about this, there’s nothing right or wrong about marketing, but if something was truly invaluable then placing any price on it would be an insult.

    What pretty much all these self improvement courses and programs are doing is selling ‘hope.’ There’s no absolute GUARANTEE that even if you do all the hard work and commitment that you will truly arrive to wherever you desired. To which the immediate response from the sellers is usually along the lines of “well it would increase the chances of getting there if they constantly take the action” – but if it’s not an absolute guarantee then it would not be wise to pay more than a certain amount for it, if it’s just about playing a betting game of “increasing the chances” then one is better off not paying anything to anyone else. When someone buys something materialistic from a reliable source the difference is there’s a guarantee that they get the thing they bought. So it must be understood that the sincere individual that truly wishes to get somewhere would start by committing years to truly getting to that somewhere through utter devotion rather than buying some course to rely on.

    - CONS: Not worth the money for something that isn't an absolute guarantee
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    • Hi, I get where you’re coming from. I’m a “Fan” of Hamza and I’ve watched him for a pretty significant amount of time now. I’ve never been a part of a paid community or course so I can’t really bring much on this side of the argument.
      From what I know is that Hamza really changes:his opinions change, and I think he isn’t the one to overprice a course anymore. Of course, I absolutely get your point that “milking” teenagers and living off of their hope is disgusting (though I see him more as help than anything else – when you bring money into things it almost always results in more bad :D).
      The thing I wanted to point out is you talking about no guaranteed success. It is “guaranteed success”. The vision of Hamza is to help create better father figures and the whole self-improvement community kind of grabs hold of all the power of your life and shove it back into your arms with: “Your choice.” Its not about building a business, getting women and stuff like that. I find that rather shallow. The reason behind all of this, this whole movement (I guess you could call it that), is to give you back the control over your life, give you tools to work with your own self and make you believe that you can actually achieve happiness. Thats the point of returning back to meditation, exercise, eating clean and stuff like that – its GUARANTEED that over time it will make you happy.
      For me, Hamza, Cole Hastings, Niklas Christl, Mel Robbins and many other people, are people I will be very grateful for for showing me the way I want to go at least for now.
      Sorry this was too long, have a nice day :).

      • Hi, the stuff you said about how you’re a fan of him and how you don’t think he isn’t one to overprice a course anymore and how you’re grateful for a bunch of self improvement guys (all of which I’ve heard before from years ago and none of which impress me but I get that we might be at different ages and levels here), none of that matters to me because I’m not interested in your personal claims or your opinions. I’m only interested in the facts and the truth.

        So let’s talk about the “no guaranteed success” stuff instead, which seems to be the main thing here you’re contending. You’ve written ” It is “guaranteed success”. The vision of Hamza is …” but you’ve not actually explained how the vision that you claim that Hamza’s vision is, is a guarantee. There’s a lack of explanation there. Firstly, you’ve made the claim that Hamza’s vision is “X” and therefore to support your claim, it would help if you reference where exactly Hamza has stated his vision. You can link a video of him stating this with the timestamp to show it.

        Next, you’ve said “Thats the point of returning back to meditation, exercise, eating clean and stuff like that – its GUARANTEED that over time it will make you happy” – so here you’ve just said something and then made the claim that it’s guaranteed. This is a leap as you’ve not explained how those things guarantee making one happy. Also, there are individuals who do all those things (meditate, exercise, eat clean) and many more healthy habits yet they’re not “happy.” So first of all, explain what you even mean by your definition or view of the word ‘happiness’ and your view of the word ‘success’, since people can have different ideas or views of these words.

        Also if you read the context where I say it’s “no absolute guarantee” you can see I’m referring to arriving at “wherever you desired” – therefore, this is dependent on one’s view of where they desired to go. Therefore, if one desired those things that you said you find shallow such as “building a business, getting women and stuff like that” then my point still applies to those. Now, let’s say even if one desires other things which you may think is less shallow, such as perhaps “overall more life satisfaction” then this is still not an absolute guarantee because if there’s even a small percentage of people who do all the popular self-improvement protocols (meditate, exercise, clean diet, sleep well etc.) and they’ve still not found any increase in overall improvement life satisfaction (which no matter how unlikely you may think is, it’s still possible due to how multifaceted and nuanced and complicated overall life satisfaction can be subjectively to various individuals) THEN that means it’s not an absolute guarantee. And note that I use the word “absolute” to preface the word “guarantee” because I’m talking about 100% certainty here.

        Now, let’s also note that his site selling adonis school used to make claims like saying you will “ACTUALLY Make $10k/month” and many other claims. It looks like he has changed what’s written there now (he seems to change it quite often which is fine) but it still currently as I write this says things like “Hamza’s goal is to get you from $0 to your first $1,000 in affiliate commissions so fast” (note this one also shows an aspect of his vision which from your view may be ‘shallow’), “your life will never be the same” – those are claims which are NOT ABSOLUTE guarantees. And this is exactly what I’m getting at.

  10. Hamza gives young men false hope by preying on their insecurities and naïve nature. Like how bad must you feel taking some poor 16 y/o money because the kid is desperate for companionship from the opposite gender. Never trust anyone on youtube who is selling something since they nearly always have a reason to lie. I don’t think people like Hamza feel much of anything, I don’t think they actually have a conscience, let alone some introspective inner monologue. They just do and speak whatever they feel like. If anything they’ve convinced themselves that what they’re doing is genuinely good for others. The issue is that these type of creators are so deep in the delusion, that they genuinely think they are the chosen ones, no matter how scummy they are unintentionally, they genuinely believe they are doing this for the better good. Starting a business isn’t so simple, saying that all you have to do is wait 12 months is a horrible lie, you might have to wait years and that’s if you don’t go bankrupt in the process.

    14 year olds buying Hamza’s course for $500 with their parents credit card or “grinding” an entire summer just to be accepted and these kids will pose and take a selfie and get fake virtue signaling from other 14 year old hamza fans then use this fake confidence to approach a girl and get rejected brutally. Saddest thing is, they will blame themselves, tell themselves that they didnt try/work hard enough, meanwhile Hamza and people like him profit from this cycle of insecurity. “Don’t go to college bro! Instead attend hamza university!” Basically preying on young guys and teens to give their minimum wage paycheck to him. If the guy you’re following got rich off telling others how to get rich, it’s most likely not gonna work as all he did was capitalizing on your urge. Brian Begin does the same thing. You go to his products page, and it’s plagued with this “$100000 product you only get for $99.99! Wooooow”.

    Hamza: I will teach you how tt make 50k/week online (value: $57,139)
    How? Just trust. I did it therefore so can you!
    LMAO JUST TRUST ME BRO. GIVE ME $500 AND I PROMISE YOU UR GONNA ME A MILIONAIRE BRO!

    Hamza recently made a community post bragging about his income. Screenshots showed $30,000 per week from his “Academy” & $1000 a day from his youtube channel.
    At the end of the day, all these dudes, whether it be Hamza or any of the redpill grifters, are running a business. It’s unfortunate that they’re scamming losers, but they recognized the demand for the content, and made money off of it. They carefully plan their content, to keep the losers in, and to get new losers to subscribe/purchase.
    If you fail, you keep paying for his advice, he wins. If you succeed, you keep paying think it’s because of him, he still wins. Hamza’s advice is probably useful but for fellow red pill grifters and scammers who want to capitalize on lonely desperate guys. Seems like Hamza took note of Robert Greene’s Law #32 from The 48 Laws of Power: Play to people’s fantasies.

    Hamza tapped into the greatest resource and struck gold – that resource is male desperation. There was a time where he priced the Adonis program at $1000 promising to not going any lower in fact only higher, only to eventually half it. Of course his audience will excuse that saying he did it out of generosity. He basically even renounced his older dating videos as bad advice (which it was but for different reasons), but kinda snaked his way into conveying a whole other message. Whatever good advice he gives is nullified by the insidious bad advice he gives and gaslights others.

    Hamza is a megalomaniac on all fronts. It’s sad that people are falling for this but also understandable. His whole shtick is relatability and manipulation. He fits all criteria for extreme narcissism/megalomania to a T:
    -Highly narcissistic and self fixated (every 5 seconds in his videos he has to show himself flexing or in the thumbnails hanging out with women)
    -Makes his notch count his entire personality
    -Puts down others constantly in his vlogs (talks about how he doesn’t respect people, how others are inferior to him, how he goes around the world belittling other men and how good it makes him feel)
    -Spouts misinformation and when called out basically replies with “stfu bro lol”
    -Is islamic and recently has begun to want to push people into that direction, calling atheists degenerates
    -Insane price gouging
    -Deletes comments criticizing him constantly, it’s possible he might have a special person he pays just for that
    -he some times slips up in his vlog and says “you don’t need to put up quality things, just do some random courses and some sucker will buy it”, admitting to him being a fraud.

    The manosphere, ladies and gentleman, and what it has amounted to.

  11. Self-improvement YouTubers and their grifting practices can certainly be a cause for concern. Sure a few of them might provide valuable advice and support here and there, but even those few tend to also prioritize profit over genuinely helping people regardless of whether you think they just want to help you. Here are some valid criticisms of Hamza and other Self-improvement YouTubers and their grifting:

    1. Lack of expertise: Many Self-improvement YouTubers position themselves as experts without having any formal education or qualifications in the field they claim to be experts in. They often provide oversimplified or generic advice that may not be applicable to everyone’s unique circumstances.

    2. Overemphasis on quick fixes: Self-improvement YouTubers often promote the idea of instant solutions or life hacks, promising rapid results with minimal effort. However, personal growth and development are typically gradual processes that require sustained effort and dedication.

    3. Unverified claims: Many Self-improvement YouTubers make bold claims about their methods or the benefits they can deliver, but fail to provide any evidence or scientific basis for their assertions. This lack of substantiation can mislead viewers and create unrealistic expectations.

    4. Monetization focus: Many Self-improvement YouTubers prioritize monetization strategies over genuinely helping their audience. They may use clickbait titles and thumbnails to attract viewers, employ manipulative marketing techniques, and push products or services that they stand to gain financially from, even if those offerings are of questionable value.

    5. Preying on vulnerability: Many Self-improvement YouTubers exploit the vulnerability of their audience, specifically targeting individuals who are struggling with personal issues or mental health challenges. They often offer simplistic solutions or false promises, taking advantage of people’s desperation for personal growth and improvement.

    6. Lack of accountability: Self-improvement YouTubers may not take responsibility for the potential negative consequences of their advice. If their guidance leads to adverse outcomes or exacerbates someone’s struggles, they often evade accountability by shifting the blame onto the viewer, suggesting that they didn’t follow the advice correctly or lacked sufficient willpower.

    7. Oversimplification and generalization: In an effort to make their content accessible and appealing to a wide audience, self-improvement YouTubers tend to oversimplify complex issues and generalize solutions. This can lead to a shallow understanding of the underlying problems and hinder genuine personal growth.

    It is important for viewers to critically evaluate the content they consume and be aware of the potential pitfalls associated with self-improvement YouTubers who prioritize grifting over genuine support. If a self-improvement Youtuber is selling something then that’s always a cautionary signal regarding their main number one priority regarding being a self-improvement Youtuber. This is why seeking advice from qualified professionals, engaging in open dialogue, and developing a well-rounded understanding of personal development can be more beneficial in the long run.

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    Look, Guys I am watching Hamza for 6 months now. And I don’t have nothing necessarily bad to say about him. I’ve personally see him change in the last few months with the content he posts, he is not posting that clickbaity guru stuff anymore , but he posts literal guides on how to improve your own life, and I think it is good for our society.

    He is bringing awareness about problems we have: men being not masculine, eating plastics and poison in our food, etc.

    We all should agree that we need to have role models for our kids, and I personally think they should be our parents, but not many parents are saying go to the gym, work hard, etc.
    So we should be happy that kids are having content like this to watch, I think it’s better than watching Mr Beast.And I know Hamza is not perfect and neither of us is, and I would be only happy if you created your own channel on the self improvement space.

    About him being self-centered, I think everyone of us is, and I want to make as much money as possible, and it is okay for Hamza to do so too.

    Idk if I helped you or not, but I wish you all the best.

    If you really think Hamza is bad, just become a better self improvement influencer!

    Wish you all the best

    + PROS: Good
    - CONS: Can’t say nothing bad about him
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    • You say you have been watching Hamza for 6 months, well are you rich yet? No one is saying there’s any issue with the underlying message of encouraging people to improve themselves, the issue is to do with his grifting from it. There are hundreds of YouTubers and thousands of videos on guided of how to improve one’s life that are pretty much on par with his level of value.

      “men not bring masculine,” “poison in our food” these topics are already talked about a lot, especially the whole masculinity crisis gets talked about a lot in redpill spaces. So I don’t think bringing awareness to something already widely discussed is necessarily a good thing especially when you get money from talking about it.

      And why should one become a self-improvement influencer if they think Hamza is bad? One doesn’t need to become an influencer if they don’t want, they can simply focus on themselves.

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    **Just a half rant and rambling***

    I’m leaving Hamza, but I’m also leaving ALL of the self improvement youtubers.
    All of these self help youtubers, Hamza, Cole Hastings, IceColdJt, FarFromWeak,Elisha Long, Matt D’avello, Improvement Pill, I know a lot of fucking self improvement youtubers LOL, because it’s the next stage.

    I’ve quit discord self improvement servers, I’ve quit going on reddit self improvement subreddits, and I’ve now going to quit self improvement youtube content.
    The thing is, watching something won’t help you.
    It’s only actually action that creates progress.
    It’s so dumb. I watch a video a Hamza video on the importance of working out, yet I don’t work out. I watch an IceColdJt video on nofap, but I still fap. I watch some productivity video from Matt D’avello, I still have a missing assignment lol.

    I was smart enough to realize that going on a discord server or a reddit subreddit wouldn’t help, why do I think overconsuming videos on things I should be doing but aren’t doing would help? going on youtube is just a waste of time.

    I discovered self improvement about 6 – 7 months ago, but I only realized this today.

    “Progress comes from taking action”. Even consuming self improvement books wouldn’t change your life without the action taken from it.

    It’s like filling a car with gas. Knowledge from Hamza or self improvement youtubers or posts or self improvement books is like filling a car with gas. Just by filling a car with gas won’t mean it will move. You actually have to press the car thing to move.

    The thing is we’re lazy. We don’t want to do the work. We just want to read a self improvement book whilst listening to music, or lie in bed and watch Hamza videos, instead of actually go out and do the work.

    Because your life doesn’t change by watching videos. Your life doesn’t change by reading information. Because everyone wants their business to profit, they don’t tell you this. They want you to invest in their course, their book, their videos, and 97% invest and just watch. Ahmet Khan in his video said like only 3 – 4% of hamza fans actually take action to do the work. Because no doubt, there are some people who’ve heard hamza’s advice to quit video games, and get in the gym and start reading and actually applied it. But the majority of us are just consumers.

    If you put the input and output:

    Input: you watch a video on meditation Output: Now you have the knowledge of meditation but your life is the same

    Input: you watch a video on quitting video games. Output: now you have the knowledge of why you should quit video games but your life is the same.

    Input: you read a post on why you should go to the gym and the benifits. Output: now you have the knowledge of why you should go to the gym but your life is the same.

    Input: you read a book like atomic habits on how to quit and make habits. Output: now you have the knowledge of how to quit habits and make habits and your life is the same.

    But with action:

    Input: You meditate for 20 minutes for 20 days. Output: you actually have an increase in mental health

    Input: You actually work on the assignment and try to finish your assignments. Output: your productivity has increased and your assignments are complete

    Input: you start learning a skill like copywriting, video editing, affiliate marketing. Output: you actually earn some money.

    Input: you work out for 6 months. Output: you actually are more muscular and physically attractive

    Hahahaha, after coming to this realization, I understand why people call Hamza “scamza” and such. But it’s not just hamza. It’s the whole self improvement youtube space. Even the “good boy” ones. Ali Abdaal, Matt D’avello, Cole Hastings, so wholesome /s, they want viewer retention. They want you to get invested in their videos.

    The only knowledge consumption that is useful is on more advanced topics. Basic shit like working out and meditation, is too easy, you already know how to take action.
    But copywriting, I don’t know how to copywrite. Calisthenics? Kinda confusing, I’ll learn on that.

    Consuming information is only useful if you DON’T know how to take action on that thing. So Hamza’s content would only be useful if you literally never heard of self improvement, (and people like that exist lol, I was unaware of the gym, quitting video games, it was a foreign topic for an anti social anime watching chubby loser ie me.)but if you’ve watched more of 5 of his videos, you don’t have to watch anymore.

    With this realization that “only taking action results in an output”, I’m going to change my life for real. Not with some youtube videos, or reddit posts or discord. “Join the UsA disCord SeLf ImprovEment serVer”. Shut the fuck up. “SiGn up for my 1000 dollar bodYbuilDing CourSe” Shut the fuck up. “WelCome to the SeLf impRoveMent redDit SubreDdit” Shut the fuck up.

    Consuming youtube videos, or discord servers or reddit posts or courses, WONT RESULT IN YOUR LIFE GETTING BETTER.

    Only TAKING ACTION WILL.

    (I will give some credit to hamza, icecoldjt, ali abdaal, etc for at least introducing me into going to the gym. Into entrepreneurship. Into quitting bad habits, into meditation, into being productive. Because it’s awareness. giving hamza due credit, because if I never saw his youtube video recommended in my bottom right homepage, I would not be here. I would be watching whatever the newest anime and playing video games. I only get to take action, because of the awareness hamza gave me. So even though I’m kinda pissed off at Hamza for making me binge watch his content, I am grateful to him.)

    + PROS: gave me the awareness to take action. with the action actually being the thing to take action. some people genuinely don't know about self improvement, so he is good for the awareness he provides
    - CONS: content addictive as fuck easy to bingewatch I won't list the courses or adonis school as a con, because tbh if you're stupid enough to pay for 500 dollars, or 1000 dollars, that's kinda on you lol
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    • Some of the comments below do say it’s not just but the whole self improvement youtube space. Yeah those youtubers want viewer retention because views is what drives their revenue and allows more people to sign up to their programs.

      I think you got the right understanding that it’s only action that leaves behind a fossil record and not mere info consumption. Though just meditating for 20 mins or 20 days may not lead to an increase mental health for everyone but I get what you’re saying.

      Only thing that is maybe off here is:
      “Input: you start learning a skill like copywriting, video editing, affiliate marketing. Output: you actually earn some money.”

      This is what those self help people talking about finance will tell you or what the “how to make a passive income” books and people on twitter will tell you. If it was that simple then most of the people who learned those skills would be earning a decent money but they don’t and a lot of do put in a lot of time and effort, so it’s not just about hard work. It really depends as it actually doesn’t make a lot of people money but it may have worked for a very small percentage just like how only a very small percentage of youtubers make it big. People will tell you it’s all about consistency and working hard and not giving up, but that sort of advice tends to only apply to more mechanical things like working out/exercise, not for things like copywriting or affiliate marketing.

      If you’re doing nothing else with your time then you can try that route and who knows you might be one of the lucky ones. People don’t like to talk about luck because they want the feeling of control and most of the time people talking about luck is often out of laziness, so it’s understandable why people who say luck may be disregarded but all you got to do is look at the majority of people who try learning those skills to make money and see that even most of the ones who try hard tend to fail at these popular passive income methods.

  14. People considering paying for adonis school, understand this:

    1. If you search for reviews and testimonials, you are most likely only going to see positive reviews BECAUSE If you paid for the program then that means you very likely resonated with some of the stuff Hamza has said and therefore even if Adonis school didn’t help people they tend to not put out negative reviews as they don’t want to harm Hamza’s personal brand.
    2. Most of the positive reviews happen to have their affiliate link to the Adonis School purchase which means they get some money from it if you sign up using their link. Therefore their review may not very accurate or genuine.

    It can be compared to what Tate does with Hustlers Uni. Some people say these kind of self help programs like Hustlers-Uni and Adonis School are like pyramid schemes (paying participants recruit further participants, with returns being given to early participants using money contributed by later ones).

    • not just that but sometimes people are encouraged to do positive testimonials by being told in the private server that there will be one lucky person who does a positive testimonial gets some cash prize or some other prize, so then you get a bunch of their consumers doing positive testimonials in hope to be the lucky person who gets a cash prize. Not sure if Hamza has some sort of prize or what but I’m just saying this is sometimes the case in other self help programs or for anything really.

      • You could have not wasted so much time by indirectly judging Hamza as if you knew his heart by just telling us that Hamza can be manipulative and don’t over consume (which he himself is against of )!

        His audience is not as naive as you think we know when and when not to buy anything which seems fishy!

        • @INSHAL hey buddy my post is like a few lines, it’s really not that long compared to some of the posts here. Maybe you were referring to someone else because I was never “indirectly judging Hamza” but your post is under as response to mine so I’ll assume it’s to me.

          I simply mentioned a plausible thing some people do in business products with getting people to do positive testimonials for them, I clearly wrote “Not sure if Hamza has some sort of prize” and make it clear that my point was just that this is sometimes the case in other self help programs. So you saying his audience is not as naive as you think (which I never had an opinion on) after failing to realize my point makes me wonder if most of his audience think like you and if they do then actually I would think they’re naive.

  15. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8beoStypxrM “Full $10,000/Month Guide in 2023 (5 Income Sources To Make $10,000/Month Fast)”

    This whole video is just an indirect advertisement for adonis school.
    He ensures you it’s not in the beginning so you don’t get suspicious, but he brings it up once in a while to slowly brain wash you into having higher probable chance of buying it and so he seems more genuine by clearing the elephant in the room in the beginning.
    He is an intelligent marketer i’ll give him that.
    He also guilt trips you into having a low attention span so you watch the full thing and give him more watch time/money.
    Also the best part is at the end when says oh but you need to know the info prior in the video to get the most out of it.

    he also bashes others and makes viable points to make himself more creditable. He uses the accusation audit as most companies do.

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    Well the thing is tho is that Hamza has changed my life he got me onto meditation he got me journaling I replied to hundreds of other men in his discord server while I was out in nature I build more muscle than before
    I improved my mental health and a few of my friends mental health and we are happier than we ever been in our lives

    Before all of this me and all my friends were drinking like mad I even got to the point where I was drinking over a litre of beer one night
    I was scrolling on TikTok for 6 to 7 hours per day I was eating chocolate biscuits and bars like crazy
    I had cereal with over 16 grams of sugar 3 times every morning
    My life was so bad I wanted to get a handgun and pull the trigger pointing to my face

    Now I am not doing any of that and stopped doing it all because I stumbled across hamza and watched his videos and took action

    And I know that you may think ughgg his courses are a scam well I thought of it and it probably is due to the fact that you aren’t taking action on what he says on the video calls

    and you may think ughgg there is no refund well that is the same with universities but the return on investment you get on your health and income is so much lower and it is more expensive and it takes you your life to pay the debt off in comparison to a few weeks to a few months with his courses if you actually take action on what he says and if you want the social life read the book “How to Win Friends and influence people by David Carnegale” I may have made a spelling mistake but I am not good at spelling and the auto correct is dumb.

    And look if you are the owner of the website and if you reply anything I will only tell hamza this and the guys on his discord on self improvement this if you are a true masculine man.

    If you are a weak Jeffry that drinks every week, that eats junk food, that scrolls on social media, that is fat and you can’t benchpress 36kg like I can, that ejaculates for hours a day watching Porn, plays video games, glued to multiple rectangles in your home, doesn’t meditate, doesn’t journal.

    If you are a weak guy with a hairy flabby stomach with boobs or a weak guy with your bones up against your skin and you are not on self improvement do not leave a reply to this feed close this window and leave this site for good and I know you won’t do it and spread Jeffry propaganda and be a pussy. But for a matter of fact this could change your life and you won’t do it because you are a pussy walk up to your mirror and take your shirt is and take your pants off and you can’t help but feel disgusted with yourself.

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    • COMMENT DEBUNKED:

      1. “Well the thing is tho is that Hamza has changed my life….”

      Roughly the first half of everything you written is just an anecdotal claims. I’ve noticed that some of the hamza fans who defend him are always giving their anecdotal claims as if it means anything. Anecdotal claims are moot points because they’re unverified.

      2. “And I know that you may think ughgg his courses are a scam well I thought of it and it probably is due to the fact that you aren’t taking action on what he says on the video calls”

      You’ve just jumped to assume that the people who think it’s a scam are not taking action.
      And also, if you were actually taking action in the first place then it’s less likely you need those courses which tell you take action on things.

      3. “and you may think ughgg there is no refund well that is the same with universities..”

      Well no, that’s not true. There’s a massive difference here.
      a) University education offers a formalized and structured learning environment. It involves enrolling in a degree program and earning credits towards a recognized qualification.
      b) Universities offer comprehensive curricula that cover a wide range of subjects and disciplines. They provide in-depth knowledge and expertise in specific fields through specialized courses taught by qualified professors. Self-help courses may market themselves as the same in this regard and it’s possible that a qualified professor is in the program giving advice but this is typically not the case and even if it is it’s still usually a more limited scope of knowledge.
      c) Accreditation and Recognition: University degrees are generally recognized and accredited by educational authorities, ensuring their validity and quality. This accreditation can enhance employment prospects and open doors to further educational opportunities. Self-help courses, however, do not typically provide recognized qualifications or degrees.

      Also with the University it really depends on what degree you’re pursuing because a lot of them are not as useful. But even in that case, just because one thing isn’t worth it that doesn’t mean self help courses are.

      4. ” if you want the social life read the book “How to Win Friends and influence people by David Carnegale” ”

      This book has already been mentioned below. Here’s someone replying to it:
      “How to win friends and influence people” is an incredibly basic self-help book which pretty much everyone reads as soon as they enter the self-help space. It’s full of rudimentary advice – smile, remember names, people love talking about themselves, make the other person feel importance, dont criticize, you can’t change peoples mind via debating, etc. It’s a book that just states the obvious. If it helps some then so be it good for them but it’s also useless for many others. It all comes down to the individual.

      5. The final 2 paragraphs of what you wrote are basically just saying “If you are a weak jeffrey do X.” No substantial point made.

      On a final note, if you were already an “adonis” why would you need to go adonis school? You don’t need to pay for training to become something you already are. An adonis already has quality friends, he’s already happy and doing all the good habits like exercise and meditation and so on. Adonis doesn’t need to pay $99 per month for a tribal feeling that he already has nor pay for advice that he already knows of. Adonis already has his own networking. The only reason you feel you need to pay for these courses is because you don’t have those things. The only people who may find such a program useful is those scrolling on tiktok for 6-7 hours or those watching porn and playing video games for hours every day. Therefore the only people who would really need the program/courses are “jeffries.”

  17. Adonis School is not worth it.

    Not just the high price but because he kicks people and doesn’t refund.
    So that means a bunch of kids who really need the help might pay him $500 then get kicked out some time later with no refund.

    Also I’d add it may not feel so much as a close tribe or close knit feeling when you’ve got like 200 or 400 people there, as opposed to if there was only like 20 or 40 people.

    Some people think people need to invest something of importance like money in order to force themselves to take action. That is only true to an extent, you can pay to force yourself to do something but it’s possible eventually the extrinsic motivation runs out. Also it’s completely possible to pay and still not be able to force yourself to take action, which is similar to those people who pay thousands for a pick up artist boot-camp and still make no change by the end of it. But yes, I do not disagree that this could work as a catalyst for a few people but it really depends on the individual and you would really want to question and examine it if you really think that’s the case for you when it’s unlikely for most.

    >>>> I think a lot of Hamza fans are misunderstanding things.

    A lot of the posts are not hate or trying to intentionally tear Hamza down, it’s more about letting young people be aware of the other side of the point so overall they have a more neutral view of things.

    Just because you provide constructive criticism on something, that does not mean you’re bitter or that you’re a hater or anything.
    Just because you have time to post a long post that doesn’t mean it’s a waste of time. What you think is a waste of time is subjective to you, and people with financial freedom tend to have plenty of time to spend that time how they want.

    No one here is saying Hamza is forcing people to buy his program. He’s just attempting to convince them to, as he would, as every salesperson does.

    A lot of Hamza fans don’t see their own hypocrisy such as when they post “why even respond to a comment like this” while commenting that. By their very own logic, why even comment about responding to a comment?

    I saw Hamza’s response on that “Exposing Hamza’s ‘Adonis Academy'”
    -He kept posting “And?” in response to some points. There is no “And.” It was clearly stated there’s nothing wrong with making money and there’s nothing wrong with marketing. The point is simply as it states and the fact that he posts “And?” shows he’s not disagreeing with it.
    -In response to how a lot of the info being said in the program can be found free on the internet, Hamza says “Go find it then, guys who want to hear it from me, inside of Adonis School, pay for it happily” – again, he’s not denying that the info is out there for free.
    -Hamza seemingly tried his best to be patronizing and ended up using a bunch of strawmans and preconceived notions based on assumptions rather than facts. Assumptions about not being happy about something, assumptions that one isn’t already making a decent income of their own money.

    Much of Hamza’s talking points were just saying things like telling to use my time in other ways and to be happy for other peoples success and that a comment was pasted on other videos. Hamza failed to refute much of the actual points and to anything he did sufficiently respond, he ended up getting refuted. Nothing against Hamza, but his Adonis school is basically a pyramid scheme much like Sneako’s Creativity Kid, Tate’s Hustlers University and other self-improvement programs.

  18. Most of the things he’s doing with Adonis School correlates with the Book The 48 laws of power and your comment made me realise that’s exactly what he’s doing, Law 27 says “Play on People’s Need to Believe to Create a Cult like Following” that’s the first thing that popped in my head when I heard about Adonis School, and I’m not saying Hamza is a bad guy or anything but he realizes that there are people that will pay whatever amount they can afford that he would set. And that’s not all on him that’s on the buyers too – as the article states “The consumers need to take accountability for their actions as well.”

  19. I think Tate called out Hamza because on his adonis school page he wrote that the difference between his program and Hustlers uni is that Hamza is actually present giving out advice in his whereas Tate is not. I dont think it matters if Hamza is present or not since just because he’s there that doesn’t necessarily make it way better especially when Hamza has shown he’s clueless about certain things (i.e. Testosterone and how Derek MPMD deconstructed stuff he said on it).

    https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1652705871628042251

    Even if he wasn’t calling out Hamza, it can definitely apply to guys like him and Iman.
    “Some 25-year-old yelling at you that money is easy”
    “Despite only making his money through the easiest time in the world to get rich by blind luck”
    “They tried to clone and copy Hustler’s University.”
    “They do not understand we have over 100 staff and team members working 16 hours a day every day.”

    It does sound like he’s kind of saying “don’t buy their scam, buy my scam instead” but Tate brings up valid points about how these guys got lucky without any actual skill. Hamza’s only big accomplishment is accumulating 2 million subs on a self-improvement youtube channel, what actual credentials does he have? Does he have an MD or a PhD in anything? Did he become a world champion at anything? Did he invent any useful physical product? He’s only like 25 which means his prefrontal cortex has only just fully matured.

    • his credentials are how much his life has improved and how many other’s lives have improved from the things he’s said as well. You don’t need a MD and PhD to do research and share your findings.

      • His credential is a 3rd class psychology degree from Manchester Metropolitan University. We don’t know if his life has actually improved, only he really knows that, but we can make the assumption that his life has financially improved (but there are other areas in life). Likewise you don’t actually know other people’s lives have improved, those are just claims some people made.

        Yes you don’t need a MD or PhD to do research and share your findings HOWEVER it’s to have something to show for, to have trust in. Let’s say one needed surgery they’re most likely going to put much more trust in a qualified surgeon than some random guy w/o credentials who claims they “put in the work” to study about surgery, even if the random guy really does know more and is more skilled. And in the eyes of the other person, the likelihood is that the guy with qualified credentials knows more. Of course in the self help space it’s not as deep to talk about certain things but in certain areas a lot of gurus such as hamza talk nonsense, such as when he was speaking on Testosterone and then the youtuber ‘More Plates More Dates’ pointed out the incorrect broscience claims Hamza made.

  20. His new program is now Adonis School. It’s $499 to join then $99 a month after.

    People need to understand Hamza isn’t great just because he does talks for hours to multiple people 3 times a day. Most people would do that for a huge amount of money. If it’s 99 per month and there’s 200 people. Then 99 x 200 = he’s getting like 20k per month just for talking to people and meeting up with them.

    Ignore the anecdotal claims by videos and testimonials claiming it was great, for all you know they could’ve been paid by Hamza to say that though I’m not saying that is necessarily guaranteed the case. In fact, it’s probably more likely they weren’t paid and are just deluded youngsters who think it’s worth it even though they’ve made no significant transformation in life. Is there any actual evidence of most normal guys that joined adonis school then few months later they started earning 6 figures or became a top 1% man? Any evidence that the people in the tribe are top 1%? Are there peer-reviewed studies and empirical evidence of a large sample size that joining this adonis school creates transformation? It is all unverified claims. And much like testimonials, you get given a one sided view where you only hear about the few positive feedbacks and never hear about all the guys for whom the program did next to nothing. Just look at the testimonials presented on his site, all of them are 5 stars, not a single person even gave it 4.5 stars, that alone tells you how much he’s pushing the narrative that it’s perfect. If he was truly authentic he would’ve showed some testimonials that gave it less stars.

    Just because it’s seen as value to some kid it isn’t necessarily value to others. Everyone is at different levels. Not everyone needs to pay $99 a month for a community feeling. Not everyone needs to pay that much for networking. Ok so let’s assume one of them supposedly makes 50k a month, so what there are people who make that amount and more who didn’t join any course or program. Just because a couple of guys in the adonis school make a lot of money that doesn’t make the program actually worthy, also those few guys making a lot of money could’ve been making huge amounts before they even joined the program.

    One can also find like-minded people to meet up with for free with just a little bit of searching but if someone wants to save having to put in any extra effort or time to find such people on their own and think it’s better to just pay $499 followed by 99 a month to save any time then they’re welcome to do so. The amount of effort and the amount of time it takes depends on the individual and therefore is not necessarily always going to take a lot of time. This is all depends on the level that you’re at, people are at different levels. For some it may take minimal time and effort to find such things.

    And since everyone is at different levels, for some to network with those hundreds of mostly young people may not be worth it as the advice given in these private servers may very well be information that they’ve already heard. So the advice being thrown around in these private calls is way more likely going to be seen as “value” to people who are new to self improvement but even then if you’re new to self improvement there are hundreds of free vids by hamza himself and you can find his courses leaked for free, so even then they would have to question whether it’s still worth paying for. And if you’re just paying for the social aspect then that also depends on the individual as some people already have good strong relationships with like-minded people and therefore may not need this program. And then let’s say after all this, you still feel like you need the benefits of such a program, there are many other programs like this by many other self improvement youtubers and gurus, some of which sell theirs at much cheaper price and therefore then one may have to consider whether they want to choose another over the adonis school.

    If you want to pay that’s your choice. Your decision but don’t be surprised when you do and then when you’re older you realize it was a waste of money as you start to realize all the advice is actually just basic stuff. Note never said there’s anything wrong with making money. Never said there’s anything wrong with marketing. I have to mention these because many Hamza fans are often quick to strawman. I’m not even saying Adonis school is a scam. There’s a slight nuance here but I think the word “grifter” suits him more than scammer because scam implies fraudulent act while what he’s really doing is just ripping people off so it’s more of a grift than a scam.

  21. People are paying about $500 a month to go mountain climbing and access to a glorified discord private group. It is sad that people need to pay money too feel valuable and feel loved.

    $500 a month is enough to travel with, setup a small business, buy top quality products.
    Imagine what you could be using that money on
    1) Paying for Udemy courses like Programming/IT/Maths etc. that actually help you develop your skills find a job
    2) Extra curricular activities: GYM, Swimming, Tennis etc.
    3) Tutoring: To enhance your existing skills and level up
    4) Charity: Help others around you etc.

    Instead you want to give Hamza that money so you can feel like you’re part of some special exclusive club where you think to yourself that you’re surrounded with high level thinkers and think to yourself that you’re gaining massive value from it but in actuality your life situation has barely changed and you just have less money now after giving hamza a portion of your earnings. Whatever, your money, your life, your responsibility, your choice.

  22. People are paying about $500 a month to go mountain climbing and access to a glorified facebook private group. It is sad that people need to pay money too feel valuable and feel loved

    $500 a month is enough to travel with, setup a small business, buy top quality products.
    Imagine what you could be using that money on
    1) Paying for Udemy courses like Programming/IT/Maths etc. that actually help you develop your skills find a job
    2) Extra curricular activities: GYM, Swimming, Tennis etc.
    3) Tutoring: To enhance your existing skills and level up
    4) Charity: Help others around you etc.

    Instead you want to give Hamza that money so you can feel like you’re part of some special exclusive club where you think to yourself that you’re surrounded with high level thinkers and think to yourself that you’re gaining massive value from it but in actuality your life situation has barely changed and you just have less money now after giving hamza a portion of your earnings. Whatever, your money, your life, your responsibility, your choice.

  23. Hamza’s adonis academy, 1stman’s streaming platform, sneako’s creativity, ahhhhh… who do I give my money to…..they’re all promising life changing experiences and they’re all claiming their respective products are massive bargains. They couldn’t possibly be exaggerating or having any personal bias right?

    Money really does show people’s true colors. And it’s not like every person suddenly stops wanting more money even when they become rich – Logan Paul and his crypto scam is a clear example of that.

    Hamza thinks if he also calls himself scamza and laughs about it that people will think it’s “just a joke” and tbh since his viewers are mostly kids that might even be true.

  24. There’s nothing wrong with marketing but when Hamza tries to say it isn’t some “salesman marketing” that just makes him seem less authentic. This article mentions psychological charming and nearly 2 years later with Hamza’s new program “Adonis Academy” he’s still using that same strategy. If there really wasn’t any marketing then he would’ve just priced it at $1000 instead of $999 so to try and make it come across as though there’s no salesman marketing is disingenuous.

    Also is it really like a tribe when you have to pay him $999 to join. You don’t pay that amount to your “brother,” you don’t even pay that amount to your friend. So this is hardly an actual tribe and Hamza is hardly your friend. Wake up, you’re the consumer and he’s the producer. You’re paying for the pleasure of socializing and meeting up.

    Everything Hamza’s stating on his Adonis Academy page are things you can find for free on the internet without much effort. And you can buy a book for like $4 which may be way more of a life transformation than his $999 Adonis Academy. Don’t give Hamza your money. Use your money wisely.

  25. https://hamza-ahmed.com/order-form-589379961681281816918

    “Adonis Academy is currently $999 per month.”

    Look if anyone wants to actually pay for that then that’s on them but man you have to be aware that the entire page is full of marketing things to entice you to think that his program is ‘amazing’ even if it’s not. It’s all persuasion and hype.

    There’s so much marketing and persuasion techniques to go into all the detail so let me just give an example of a few of them he uses

    Hamza: “An Exclusive Private Community”
    -Words like “exclusive,” “secret” and “private” are some of the most common marketing words because suggesting that an offer is only available to a select group can make it more appealing.

    Hamza: “I lost $20k PER MONTH in subscriptions by doing this.”
    -Saying he lost a lot of money kicking some people out to make it sound like it’s not all about the money to him.

    Hamza: “If we’re being real, $2k or 3k a month for all of this would be an absolute steal”
    -This is to make you think his program is a massive bargain even though $999 is way more expensive than other self-help guru’s programs that may be as equal or possibly even better than his.

    Hamza: “I’ve been increasing the price of the monthly subscription every time another 50 members join.”
    -This is said to create urgency in the consumer’s pov to make them think they need to buy the program immediately before the price goes up.

    Hamza: “You can believe this is some salesman marketing tactic if you want”
    -This is the best one lol because he tries to point it out before anyone else brings it up to make it seem like it’s more legit.

    Just looking at the Testimonial vids, they seem so scripted, even more obvious than the ones Tate has of his Hustlers University. Regardless of how scripted it seems, I’m sure it will look completely legit to a bunch of the youth.

    Adonis Academy, Hustlers University, War Room, The Creativity Kit etc. these are all essentially scams made by grifters, you don’t need any of them to make it in life. Be smart before you decide to throw money at your favorite self-improvement youtubers.

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    Yall fell for his trap. Now everyone is obsessed over him.

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    Watch the videos with actual value if new information, like full guides from him. Don’t watch the clickbaity shit from him. If you got all the information you needed, time to move one bro, stop watching him. It’s just algorithm to get more people on self-improvement who are new. He repeats information for algorithm, don’t watch those videos then. I think especially a lot of younger people have been taught basically nothing in their lives. This is why a lot of younger people think his advice is so good. A lot of older men who are discipline thinks his videos are basic, fair enough. But men especially in the last 20 years have been fucked by society. These people haven’t been taught how to live as a person. Hamza telling them generic advice is necessary because they have never been told to do that. Secondly, I think the “he saved me” guys were very very inspired, yeah. I’m pretty sure it’s the circumstances that every person has been through. If someone who was very high status, born with perfect genetics and stuff would have saw his videos, that genetically blessed person wouldn’t give a fuck about Hamza. Most people are unattractive, live that painful life. Most people who watch his videos would honestly feel inspired because they experienced a painful life, discomfort. Which is a good thing, because if you don’t have discomfort, you can’t grow. I feel like most people who actually watch his videos would be the people who aren’t well placed in life, or else why would you need to Hamza’s Videos? True, a lot of people probably didn’t succeed after watching videos right away. These people either gave up or took action like a year later. That’s probably true men only with good testimonials responded “you saved me”, but hopefully that just motivates you to become better. When you think you can fix your life like everyone else in the comments has succeeded ig. Either way, yeah don’t have to trust Hamza 100%. Take the advice that would really change your life. Learn from other people besides Hamza. I disagree with 1 video a week. You can watch full guides from him and his longer unedited videos. If your watching his videos for dopamine, your a crackhead. You really have to take his advice and see for yourself if it works. If you take his advice of being more masculine or something and you feel more happy and natural, then yeah, keep doing that. If you feel like shit after being more maculine, then stop.

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    • So you basically just said if his videos help you then watch them and if the videos don’t help then don’t watch them. That’s a pretty self-explanatory thing to do and I don’t think anyone is disputing to do that lol.

      Anyway since it’s all subjective, some people might prefer or find those “clickbaity” videos to be more helpful than the long full guides which some may not think is “actual value” but rather just him going on a tangent to make the videos much longer than they need to be. It really does all come down to personal choice as there are people like you who may think those full guides are value but others may prefer much more direct succinct straight-to-the-point compact shorter vids.

      The whole “he repeats information for algorithm” is something he said but you don’t actually know if that’s the true motive.
      A comment below made this point: “He hides behind the excuse that he still posts for “jeffries” to introduce them to self-improvement which is questionable as most people who’d find his videos are most likely already aware of self-help as they would’ve had to type something self-help related for his videos to get suggested in the first place” – now I don’t know if that’s entirely true either but my point is we don’t know his true motive, whether he’s telling the truth or not.

      “Hamza telling them generic advice is necessary because they have never been told to do that” – if the advice is generic that means it’s commonly said and therefore likely they would’ve already heard it elsewhere before. The only people who have never been told to do these things are people living under a rock and maybe that’s the majority of hamza-viewers idk, if so then sure they may need to be told these basic things because they’re not going outside much or talking to many people to find out these things irl instead of from Hamza vids.

  28. Funny how the people defending hamza always resort to insults or random claims that aren’t backed up by any evidence like “the people who criticize hamza have anime pfp” lol like they couldn’t refute the actual argument so resorted to crappy generic insults. Though if hamza’s audience age demographic is really full of mostly kids then that’s not surprising either

  29. Hamza could probably cycle through posting the exact same 7 videos on how to get girls, how to get rich, how to get the perfect body, etc. – one vid for each day of the week and the exact same people would still watch them and make the same posts about how they got saved by him. Those people who post that seem like they’re deep-rooted conditioned with delusion, almost like they’re bots.

    • The people criticizing hamza have anime pfp play video games etc and are bums

      • @Moss No and it’s clear that you responded with emotions instead of logic as I never said anything about naïve manipulative kids so the fact that you brought it up says something

        • He’s just copying your retort – you said the other dude seemed like he was projecting and then he copies the same retort but uses the word “delecting” instead as if it makes any difference lol.

          Most Hamza fans aren’t even original in their remarks that’s why they even repeat Hamza’s remarks like “watch anime”, you “Jeffrey”, “play video games”

          And the irony is most of these remarks like watching p and playing video games are very likely things his fans do since otherwise those Hamza videos on quitting those things wouldn’t get so many views and obviously those things are more common among kids (which is the majority of Hamza’s audience) as their frontal lobes are less developed (so they’re likely to be more impulsive and less self-control) and they have much more free time to even do those things.

      • seems like you’re projecting

        • @Moss What did he write exactly that makes you think hes “delecting” that idea?

          And your comment is basically a “no u” type comment. You just used the word delecting instead of projecting and thought you did something there loooooool

        • do you though? do you play video games, watch p, and do bad habits? i belive you might be the one really delecting with the idea that they are just niave manipluated kids

  30. Thanks for this, this article and some of the comments really opened my eyes.

    Thankfully, I never spent any money towards him, I got all his courses for free (they’re leaked on some sites or discord servers).

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    Tired of (Color)Pills and Tate wannabes
    March 17, 2023 at 1:46 am

    Dude literally said in last video “Don’t cook because you are wasting time”, whats next “dont do your chores in the house because you gotta keep the grind”? Absolute cringe. Dude fired everyone, broke up with his girlfriend (again), lives with his parents again, banned from Instagram and Skillshare.

    The excuse for this change is “the motivation onion” or something. I don’t need no salad nor vegetables to see through his bullf*ces: The golden egg goose is dead, Hamza is broke and wants to pretend he is not.

    He evidently left his GF because two reasons: a) The same reason he left the previous one (muh grind) b) the chick got called average looking by his viewers and probably struck a nerve.

    You want real advice?

    – cut the cord
    – Do your work
    – Go take a walk
    – Read
    – Drink only water
    – Don’t use YouTube
    – Don’t watch/buy/read/listen to any self improvement bullcr@p
    – Do exercise
    – BE A NORMAL F*KING HUMAN BEING AND NOT AN ALPHA MALE, WHAT ARE YOU A
    D*MB QUADRAPED THAT YOU CALL YOURSELF ALPHA?? WHAT’S NEXT, GONNA PISS THE FLOOR TO MARK THE TERRITORY???

    JUST BE A NORMAL PERSON, STOP CALLING YOURSELF (ANYCOLOR)PILL, IF YOU
    ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE MASCULINITY OF THE PAST, DO YOU THINK A MAN
    OF THE ’50s WOULD CALL HIMSELF “REDPILLED”?? GROW UP, WE KNOW THAT YOU STILL SUCK YOUR MOMMIES N*PPLES AND TAKE BABY FORMULA.

    • You do realize nobody is going to take your “real advice” serious because before that you make bold assumptions and say that “people called his gf average which probably stuck a nerve” like bro you just sound like a sad angry man yourself (even if you are not) or you think you aren’t.

      Like there’s some good criticism in your message but it kind of gets covered by the fact that your message looks like you wrote it in fuming anger and resentfulness (even if you are not resentful or think you are not).

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        Be, lest thou label thyself
        March 25, 2023 at 8:49 pm

        Yep, I was angry, dude have been saying weirder and weirder things in recent videos. I was angry that people always seek to follow instead of carving their own way. People always want a distintive label like if they were a product, im X-pill, im X-nism, im X-that. Nobody tries to be themselves. Thats what I was/am angry at. That and the personality cult like if the dude was a God or a prophet. And lets be honest, personality cults always end bad.

        Retti: The Hamza is broke was an hyperbole written on anger. I think the following, the man does massive layoffs (fires all his team), rebases to a definitely cheaper place (his parents house), changes his videos types (no more memes), broke up with GF. If you see Hamza not as a man, but as a company, it really makes sense. Probably dude was seing a decline in viewership/revenue or a decline in his image as a “wholesome” creator so that would explain the radical changes. My real life section was more to offer a verbose-free personality cult-free advice, but I do concede that it was useless.

        P.D.: Most of the assumptions are probably true Arthur, he literally went insane about anime profile pictures. That and he has history of always blaming relationships for he being lazy. Thank you both for your input. Have a good day

      • What are the assumptions? Are you making an assumption that hes making assumptions? Maybe the guy knows something we don’t, idk. And to make it clear, I’m genuinely asking and not assuming here. Idk enough about Hamza’s current irl situation and decisions he makes to know for sure whether all those things are true or not but except for the “Hamza is broke,” wouldnt surprise me if the rest were true as iirc i vaguely remember him talking about some of those other stuff.

        He doesn’t sound angry to me, he just sounds loud from looking at the caps-lock but sounding loud doesn’t necessarily guarantee being angry. It’s just theres somewhat of a correlation between being loud and being angry, as when people make angry remarks they’re often loud too but it’s not so bidirectional as being loud is not always done out of anger. There is perhaps some emotion of despise from looking at the insults. It is ofc possible he’s angry and resentful but not conclusive evidence to know that for sure. Ofc the reading of tone is all subjective anyway so quite pointless to argue about.

        Though overall I agree with you, there’s some valid criticism in his message but it’s not exactly the best articulated compared to some of the other criticisms people here have posted. And the “real advice” section is just more generic stuff that most people already know and so isn’t really any different to all the advice Hamza gives out.

  32. I saw a comment in a youtube section which fully deconstructed a hamza fan’s argument. A hamza fan tried to make the argument that hamza isn’t interested in rinsing money from his fans because he “released 2 separate 90 minute guides for free on youtube”

    The deconstruction of that statement:

    Making entire vids that are just sales pitches to sell his courses would make it way more obv that it’s a lot more oriented to money than oriented to help and it would perhaps drive away more potential buyers compared to releasing free long guides to make the audience think you’re authentic, genuine and care about them which then makes them think you have their best interest and leads to them being more likely to buy the courses. While hamza could definitely go about this in other ways like Iman and others do, it’s also possible he doesn’t want to jeopardize the authenticity aspect to make it more obv (Note: Iman has a lot more people calling him out as a scammer, especially after he released some course or program a little while ago). Doesn’t matter whether it’s 2 full free guides or 200 free guides, it’s literally marketing 101 to give a bunch of free content (which he still gets money and grows audience from) to entice the viewer to then buy the paid stuff.

    Many people don’t see the full picture when they think of marketing and sales, they think only about how they personally would do it to optimize sales BUT there could be a bunch of reasons for not making condensed sales pitches. The most obvious being that would make it even more blatant to even the brainwashed people that it’s to entice them and those massive free guides actually give him more watch-time and it’s possible it’s done to make him seem more genuine so that his audience thinks “he actually cares about his audience.” You can try say he somewhat cares because he puts out free content – but even then he gets views and money from that. If he cared SO SO MUCH then it questions whether he would be selling any advice on the side, surely he’s getting enough money from the daily vids alone he puts out. Caring doesn’t necessarily have to be a binary thing where you either do entirely care or you don’t at all, it can be to an extent and his viewers often overestimate how much they think he cares.

    Making long hour free content, Admitting things, talking about past traumatic experiences, telling people to stop watching your vids, these can all be done strategically to deceive the audience into thinking it’s because “he actually cares” – AND I must clarify that I’m not saying that he’s doing it ALL to deceive the audience. What I’m saying it’s entirely possible he doesn’t care about the audience, I’m not saying that’s the definite case. Also you can have 2 motives, he could be trying to balance out the financial motive with the helping motive. The fact is he has made it clear money is one of his motives, whereas whether or not he is also trying to help people is unfalsifiable. Also caring about the audience and enticing them to buy his paid courses are not necessarily mutually exclusive, it’s possible that he truly thinks his course is valuable and worth the money and so entices the audience to buy it because he really thinks it will help – only he really knows his true intentions.

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    The Hamza fan didn’t have any actual resort to this and then just played the dont-have-time-to-read-that card despite trying hard to argue a point in the first place. And sure there is a difference between short comments and dissecting a long comment. But the fact that the hamza fan was willing to continuously go back and forth, showed he had the time to read and write continuous streams of small replies that someone else could feel that same way as the hamza fan claimed to have felt about not being bothered to read long messages. Then again hamza fans probably watch so much tiktok and insta reels that their attention span is so short that it’s truly so agitating for them to read long comments. People will often use ‘time’ as a cop-out. But understand that not everyone needs to be concerned with time management, especially not those with financial freedom.

    The thing is when people say they’re “not reading all that,” they simply aren’t interested in the truth enough. And if you’re not interested in the truth enough then you’re way less likely to find the truth about whatever respective thing it is. If anyone truly cared about finding the truth about this then they’d be obsessed with reading all the small replies and the long replies and thoroughly sincerely examining it all.

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    No.

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  34. there’s this video by a guy called ‘Denmo’ and the vid is called ‘How Hamza is manipulating you’ where he explains that hamza basically targets introverts, offers a membership, sells courses by scarcity strategy. Hamza instrumentalizes male insecurities to impose his own agenda and group-mentality. Funny thing is couple days after that video by Denmo got posted, hamzas editor launched his own editing course.

    However, the Denmo guy is also a grifter, he does the same thing as hamza and sells coachings and courses on relationships and confidence and other self-help stuff. Don’t trust any of them, understand pretty much all these guys got crappy qualifications and couldn’t get a decent job which is why they ended up as self-help youtubers.

    • that Denmo guy called it. Hamza’s now selling a $990 course on “youtube secrets” lol. Although it wasn’t exactly a genius prediction since hamza has always been a grifter selling overpriced courses from way back. This article was written back in October 2021 and there are a bunch of people only just starting to realize hamza’s grifting now. It just goes to show there’s a massive audience of easily trickable people (also younger people tend to be easier to fool)

  35. Someone here summed up the comments pretty well.

    – Most of the comments against Hamza are constructive criticism.
    – Most of the comments in favor of Hamza are personal claims (“he helped me!!”) and personal opinions (“I think he is a positive influence!!!”) and never rebutted all the criticism.

    • guys just get off this page and go to the gym honestly

      hamza is the fucking goat, he helped me find my purpose and inspired me to check my balls for infertility

      • fucking loser, helped you find your purpose you reckon. no you were just a waste of space and did nothing. telling someone to not be useless isnt crazy

        • hamza is goated ngl
          April 7, 2023 at 4:42 am

          so you are hating on him for finding his purpose and embracing self improvment, yeah he probably was a waste of space and jefferey before but HAMZA was the one that inspired him to IMPROVE, HE had a positive impact with or without the buying of any products from him and the guy you are talking about is genuinly happy and fulfilled after it, you are just a sad, small, weak angry man preying on guys trying to improve themselves

      • “check my balls for infertility” lmao.. well i guess that makes sense for people who watch hamza since they probably fap a lot.

        But the only people who would really need to get off this page are the so-called “jeffries,” since the people who have made it already don’t need to do anything. People who have made it big can afford to spend their free time how they want just like how Elon Musk wastes his time trolling on twitter while also being one of the financially richest person in the world.

  36. His videos are aimed at incels and if incels want to watch hamza then let them, at least he’s giving the incels hope unlike some blackpill content.

    It’s just kinda funny how the average hamza viewer probably spends their day – some kid rushes home after school excited to watch the new daily hamza video instead of actually doing something productive. The kid after watching 500+ hamza videos still thinking to himself “I’m so excited I’m going to become adonisssss” lol at least hes optimistic.

    99% of Hamza fans be like:
    Work? No, let me watch a hamza video about working instead.
    Workout? No, let me watch a hamza video about working out instead.
    Talk to a girl? No, let me watch a hamza video about talking to a girl instead.
    Make money? No, let me watch a hamza video about making money instead.

    • Yea of course there aimed for “incels”. Who would for example make a course about money for rich people or make a video on how to stop playing video games for people who don’t play video games anymore. The rest of your comment is just assumptions. It’s true that alot of people aren’t taking action. But Hamza is trying to push his viewers for it. Also watching “500 videos” is kind of complicated if he’s not uploading that much. Most of his old videos are not that good anyways. I agree with u that alot of people don’t take action. But just let them stay losers then and don’t just assume it’s the average viewer, who does that.

      • 1. That’s essentially my point that it’s aimed for “incels,” whether that’s obvious or not, a lot of the people who watch him might disagree with that so I bothered to make that point.
        2. As for the rest of my comment, well it’s not exactly empty assumptions as it’s based on a rational line of thinking – If his videos are mainly aimed for “incels” (which you agree with) then it’s likely that the majority of the people who watch them are incels. And incels are very likely to not take action, otherwise they wouldn’t be incels. Sure, not everyone is necessarily part of the target audience of a content creator who aims at a specific group but this is pretty base logic that in the majority of cases, the majority of people who regularly watch someone’s content are part of that content creator’s target audience. Therefore using pretty simple logic one can come to the rational reasoning that most of them are in fact very likely to be “incels” and thus would be very likely that they don’t take action.
        4. “Also watching “500 videos” is kind of complicated if he’s not uploading that much” – He used to upload a video almost every day and kept that up for several months and actually if you go to his channel you can see he currently has 871 videos on his main channel and 238 videos on his unfiltered. So that combined is over 1000 videos and this isn’t even including his videos on his other channels like his “fatherless podcast” channel and other deleted channels or deleted videos of his. So actually arguably that’s not “kind of complicated.” It’s only now after the whole adonis school thing began that he started uploading less frequently. But sure this is probably the only more empty “assumption” made in my former post and my point was simply that they watch a bunch of his videos without taking action and the use of “500+” was just an exaggeration.
        5. If you actually read the second sentence of my former post where I say “how the average hamza viewer probably spends their day” – I very clearly used the word ‘PROBABLY’ therefore it’s pretty self-explanatory that part is assumption-based.
        6. “But Hamza is trying to push his viewers for it” – I never said he isn’t. And actually if you want to talk about assumptions then one can argue that’s an assumption because you don’t truly know his intention.

    • W comment brother

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    YOO I’ve been scrolling through this comment thread and all of you fucking sophisticated broke motherfuckers in ‘clean white shirts’ as Hamza himself says, are all just adults. Hamza’s shit is mostly meant for guys in their teens and twenties. Yall are like 40 years old writing paragraphs and paragraphs. Go spend time with your family you antisocial fucks. I’m writing this during school in a free period (I’m very young) and I’ve been listening to Hamza (went through his entire catalog in about 3-4 weeks on Spotify) for a little under a month now, and I’ve been trying different things, improving my sleep, improving my diet, getting ripped (keep in mind I’m more fit than you middle aged fat fucks, 40% body fat lookin ass) ALL THANKS TO MY FUCKING IDOLS, HAMZA AND ANDREW TATE. Yall are the type of people to rant on social media (as you are right now, and as I am, but I allow myself to because I’m in school and there is no work to be done and/or money to be made) about Hamza and Andrew Tate when you can’t even pay the fucking phone bill and your skinny malnourished starving kids despise you. Hop off Hamza’s dick.

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    • 1) Do you have any evidence that they’re all “like 40 years old”? or is this just another Hamza fan throwing out random claims.

      2) “Hamza’s shit is mostly meant for guys in their teens and twenties” – Firstly, twenties is a massive stretch especially when Hamza’s only in his mid-20s. Secondly, what comments are you reading because a bunch of people specifically pointed out his content is mostly for kids.

      3) “Go spend time with your family you antisocial fucks” – so you got all emotional and tried to insult people. And the irony is that most of Hamza’s audience is way more likely to be an antisocial than most normal people otherwise his videos on social skills wouldn’t get so many views.

      4) “I’ve been trying different things…I’m more fit than you..” – anecdotal claims. The fact that you even felt the need to post those makes it sound like you’re kapping.

      5) “Yall are the type of people to rant on social media (as you are right now, and as I am..)” – there is a difference between a rant and constructive criticism. Most of those who wrote “long” comments criticizing him didn’t get angry with throwing insults like you did.

      6) “I’m writing this during school in a free period (I’m very young)” – You don’t need to mention that you’re very young, it’s clear by the way you responded lol. Also being very young isn’t an excuse to respond with no logic.

      7) “when you can’t even pay the fucking phone bill..” – The irony being that you’re a kid in school who can’t pay for anything without their parent’s money. And you can earn money as a kid, you could follow your idol Hamza’s footstep and become a youtuber lol.

      8) “Hop off Hamza’s dick.” – Lol you are the one dick-riding him.

      Comment Debunked.

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      joe and hamza are based
      April 7, 2023 at 4:44 am

      literally fax my man

    • “Hop off Hamza’s dick” he says as he writes a paragraph worshipping hamza and dick-riding him lol bro hes not gonna fk u

    • this guy sounds like hes projecting hard that hes actually 40% body fat, antisocial and broke lmfao

    • a lot of assumptions, a lot of anecdotal claims and a lot of anger lol

  38. Elisha Long made a video “Hamza is turning men into divas” and makes some good points about how Hamza doesn’t care for guys to be free men and how he wants you to be stuck in a pain and grief cycle, where you constantly look to him to tell you what to do. Tbh all these self improvement channels are as useless as each other, Elisha Long’s channel is not much better either. But if it helps you then it helps you and so why would you stop watching them if it helps you. Doesn’t matter whether I say they’re all useless because if it helps some kid then so be it, it’s not useless to them (probably until they grow up and then realize for themselves that the self improvement channels are useless).

    • Tbh, I think Elisha is one of the most pure and genuine guys in that space. He seems to only put out videos when he has something that he genuinely wants to talk about (and not just so he can get more views). He seems to have a more balanced approach to things as well- so while he is all about putting in the work, being on your purpose, taking care of your health etc. He also seems to be open to things like having some drinks with the boys, and playing some video games here and there. He is not uptight and obsessed with being this perfect self- help idol, and doesn’t take the joy out of life the way these other gurus do.

      He has also not resorted to any exorbitant courses or anything like Hamza has (even though he seems to have more wisdom and has been through more shit than Hamza). He does offer membership to his ‘high thumos’ discord group- which I think is something like £10-15 a month. Personally, I have never seen the need to join it myself, but at least it’s a reasonable price. And that community of guys could provide, if not motivation, then potentially a source of friendship that can lead to ‘real- life’ friendships.

      Having said that, even though he is definitely on the more trustworthy side of the spectrum- it is hard to separate the fact that whenever making this kind of content is your source of income, you are always going to have a vested interest in continuing to pump them out. Most of his videos have pretty much been done before. Perhaps they have slightly more clarity, due to further life experience. And perhaps it is not a bad thing because newer viewers can catch up so to speak. And tbh, I think that’s who these videos should be for anyway- people new to all this stuff, younger guys etc.

      But yeh I’m turning 30 in a week, and I’ve been into self- improvement stuff for at least 10 years. This content doesn’t do much for me anymore. If anything it just annoys me because someone is trying to tell me how I should live my life, when at this point I don’t need to be told anything lol. It makes me want to say to people like Elisha ‘ok we get it, that’s enough’. But then I think it’s up to me to just cut myself off from it, realising that there was actually a time when this stuff really helped me- so I can see how it might help these younger guys.

      Bottom line, if I had to choose between Elisha and Hamza- Elisha all day. Especially when he references Dark Souls, God of War and Ghost of Tsushima haha.

      • Dude don’t be so foolish with the whole “this self-improvement youtuber is better than that self-improvement youtuber” – like yeah it might be true that one is better than the other but when it comes down to it all, they’re all in the same group of being grifters saying basic stuff.

        And actually Elisha does also put out pointless vids such as vids showing his meet-ups to promote them. Not much different to Hamza’s meet-up with his Adonis Academy program. The only major difference is Elisha charges less.

  39. Just saw Greg Doucette’s video “No Hamza, YOU Appeal To The Masses Of Jeffery’s”. Greg made some good points. I can’t believe people actually take hamza’s fitness advice serious, he’s a guy that hits the gym that has extremely basic knowledge on fitness.

  40. You make some decent points about obsessive self-improvement leading to arrogance. I have dealt with this a lot being new to self improvement. I generally give off the I’m better than you vibe to people who have many characteristics of Jeffery’s. I have never purchased the course but yes 400 dollars seems unreasonable and would only consider buying it if the price were under $100. Some of that bro-science crap you mentioned, yes he was inaccurate about lizard brains, a global tragedy, really. I do understand how you disapprove of him not citing sources, he should know by now that this can damage his brand. I too find it difficult to believe Hamza when he fails to cite sources.
    You mention how the advice is very basic. Yet clearly that message is still very needed or he would have no audience. One must ask is this bringing a positive or negative impact on others lives. The answer is truly yes. Hamza has gotten more men into the gym, working on business, careers, mental and physical health than 99.9% of men. Conclusively after reading your post, there seems to be a very negative mood in your text toward hamza that I disapprove of. Yes he is running a business not a non-profit, that’s just how the world works sometimes. It is clear the overall impact of his movement is positive.

    • So because something has an audience that means it’s very needed? So pornography has a massive audience, does that mean it’s very needed? Of course those are very different things so don’t fixate on the analogy but the point is that there’s a flaw in the logic of thinking just because something has an audience that it must mean it’s needed.

      “One must ask is this bringing a positive or negative impact on others lives. The answer is truly yes. Hamza has gotten more men into the gym, working on business, careers, mental and physical health than 99.9% of men.” – Do you have empirical evidence for this? Do you actually know this for sure? Or did you just see some posts of anecdotal claims of people saying he had a positive impact on their lives then blindly believe it. And I’m not saying that he didn’t have a positive impact, I’m not saying he didn’t get more men into the gym, I’m merely asking how can you know for complete sure. You do not know “99.9%” of other men to know that for sure. You do not know that there’s an overall positive impact from his movement no matter how “clear” you think it is. There’s a difference between believing and actually knowing. Many of the claims you’ve made are not known, they are preconceived notions born from subjective beliefs.

  41. Much like self help gurus, Hamza clearly wishes to cater to his viewers emotions to fill them with hope and motivate them. I don’t believe he is truly sincere in what he is saying, he wants to elicit these emotions of hopium to get more money, again not unlike every other self help guru. He may or may not have an overall positive impact on the manosphere. He may or may not be redpilled or self-improving pilled. But he sure is “my livelihood depends on selling advice”-pilled.

    “I care about helping young guys so much that I’ll charge them money for meme advice”.
    You can say he somewhat cares because he puts out free content – but even then he gets views/money from that. If he cared SO SO VERY MUCH then he wouldn’t be selling any advice on the side, surely he’s getting enough money from the daily youtube videos he puts out right? Caring doesn’t necessarily have to be a binary thing where you either do entirely care or you don’t at all, it’s more of a spectrum and his viewers often overestimate how much they think he cares.

    This is business after all, he needs to provide for his family, being a youtuber giving out self-improvement advice is his job. Therefore his motives are of course financial. This is the way “influencers” make money in the social media age.

  42. I just discovered Hamza and have been watching his older content. It’s astonishing how hard his content has plummeted.

    Hamza reminds me a lot of the SJW types who make social justice their profession. Eventually the demand outweighs the supply you have to offer, so now you’re scrambling to make content; which is a fast road to destroying your brand. Hamza is the type of guy to talk about the good ol days of WWII where men were drafted and how that’s a good thing but shit his pants the second it actually becomes reality.

    I always find it so funny how these redpillers and self-help gurus always talk about how much they hate casual sex, how much they want real intimacy, yet they constantly fixate on sex and how they’re deprived of casual sex. There are so many levels to intimacy and casual sex is certainly not the minimum benchmark – the fact so many people are hung up on this fallacy is the root of so much misery. If you’re using the word sex as an umbrella term to encompass the fundamentals like validation, human touch, and connection then fine but that is such a massive stretch unless clarified on (which Hamza does not clarify on).

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    Hamza recently made a video called “90% Of Men Are Lonely. What Are The Consequences?”

    – Hamza is living proof that you can say anything with confidence and some people will believe you no matter how crazy it is. It is actually insane how he can literally just make up a statistic and people just believe it.

    – “90% of men are incels”. “Nobody is getting married anymore”. But people are starting families at age 30. Dude is all over the place. It is true that less men are having sex nowadays than before, like dude some of us get the point but saying that 90% are incels is a super-cluster size overstatement and is blatantly disingenuous.

    – Sex is a physiological need by Maslow’s definition yes. HOWEVER, Maslow’s hierarchy lists sex solely from an individualistic perspective. For example, sex is placed with other physiological needs which must be satisfied before a person considers “higher” levels of motivation. This placement of sex neglects the emotional, familial, and evolutionary implications of sex within the community, (and yes one can argue this is also true of all of the basic needs to some extent but not to the same degree as sex). In addition and in stark contrast to the other listed needs, it is clear that sex is not a universal need. This is evident in children who have not undergone puberty, asexuals, and some adults choose to go their entire life without it, yet still obtain higher needs. The same cannot be said for the other listed needs.

    – The exponential suicide rate was so wild how is that even conceptually possible. Plus how are celebrities counted in that those are the ones he’s talking about as “top men” so wild.

    – Hamza makes the claim he could be a lot more successful if he made his self-improvement more unisex, but no that’s not necessarily true – it can very well be that there’s a better demographic just focusing on men.

    – People in Hamza’s discord claim it’s not a “cult” however hamza talks about putting people through a “rite of passage” and examining people – that’s some cult crap. A youtuber deciding if you’re a man lol.

    – Take away the exaggeration, he made a couple good points but all of the good points mentioned are obvious rudimentary stuff. Like yeah he’s right about male loneliness and the dating market being skewed but not completely right on why and what the cause is.

    - CONS: Exaggerating things to the point where it's blatantly disingenuous Makes up statistics without providing any sources
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  44. Hamza fans be like thanks Hamza you saved me, I used to be a broke obese 5’2 indian janitor and now I’m a rich successful ripped 6’4 white gigachad. It was all thanks to the hundreds of self-improvement videos you put out. It was incredibly motivating and profound advice to repeatedly hear about exercise, meditation, sleep, diet and gratitude, I never heard of any of those things before, you are so wise adonisssssss!!! ????????????

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    I don’t get why he feels the needs to sell these extra courses like aesthetics or 1:1 video coaching. Surely he’s getting enough money from the views where he’s averaging around 100k views per vid and plus he’s uploading almost daily, so combine those together he must getting way more than enough. Didn’t he also claim he was making £30k per month? So he’s making like £360,000 per year and still feels the need to sell overpriced courses. Something’s not right here. Like a few people mentioned it doesn’t matter if he helped some people, so have big “fake” gurus.

    Not cool Hamza. Provide your paid stuff all for free if you really have the viewers’ best interest. Imagine how much you could help some broke kids living in some developing 3rd world countries (provided your courses are as valuable as you claim them they are).

    + PROS: Some positive influence on some people (mostly children getting into better shape)
    - CONS: Overpriced courses Megalomaniac Useless content for most adults since it's basic stuff most of us have already heard. Very uninformed on certain topics and then says potentially dangerous things (e.g. regarding testosterone). Lacks clarity, open-mindedness and overall awareness.
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    You bring up good points and you were very clearly educated on his content.
    The point on a bad analogy was weak because the points you made apply to his course too because you don’t have to buy the course or the consultation: “Not necessarily because it’s somewhat out in the open and people can still not go into

    + PROS: Good credibility
    - CONS: Weak points
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    • “You bring up good points”
      “CONS: Weak points”

      Did you rank the article instead of Hamza?

      I agree the point on a bad analogy wasn’t great. It’s all marketing whether it’s a big red sales sign or if it’s positive testimonials to back up a product/course. What he should’ve said instead is that the difference is most of the time with a red sales sign you know what you’re getting in return for sure whereas with these online self-improvement marketing they nearly always sell some false hope. There is a comment by some user called “Willpower” where he/she explains the difference between just normal marketing and deceptive marketing. So if the red sales sign is promoting some overpriced rip-off thing or it’s promoting something that it isn’t accurately made out to be then yes that is also a “scam”. So with the red sales sign it’s absolutely context based on what the red sales sign is promoting towards.

      And yes you don’t have to buy the course/consultation but that doesn’t take away the fact that it is overpriced and it is why like the article states “The consumers need to take accountability for their actions as well”. There is a comment by some guy called Christian who explains further about how the point is that the producer isn’t necessarily wanting what is best for you.

      • Personally Hamza is spreading positive message since I have been listening to him I have been working put, eating health, working onnmy education and side businesses and learning the trumpet and reading philosophy and SMMA (What Hamza YT is) so if he is manipulating then I fully support it if it is actually helping men such as me (I was smoking weed at 13 and 14 had a point addiction I also was in a gang) I am still 14 and I am a different person within the 6 months I found Hamza

        • This kind of post supports exactly what one of the other guys wrote
          “– Most of the comments against Hamza are constructive criticism.
          – Most of the comments in favor of Hamza are personal claims (“he helped me!!”) and personal opinions (“I think he is a positive influence!!!”) and never rebutted all the criticism.”

          You are giving an anecdotal claim about your personal experience. If he helped you then cool but your post adds nothings of substance to the discussion. Also, then again you are 14 so you have a lot to realize.

  47. hamza has now more than doubled his aesthetic course which was like $200 and now is priced at $487.99 but hey i’m sure he’ll claim he has added a bunch of new stuff and improved it!

    Total Value: $19,158
    Today’s Price: $487.99

    Marketing 101 where you put a ridiculously high price then cross it out and put a much lower yet still very high price. If anybody falls for this marketing and thinks they’re getting a bargain just because he took the price down from almost $20k to nearly $500, then oh boy are you going to be scammed a lot in life.

    and don’t fall for the “60 Day Money Back Guarantee” either

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    You’re true evil, the hypocrisy of saying that he’s brainwashing kids, you’re the one supporting the modern western brainwashing, of cancel culture, of transgenders, of lgbtqs truly the devil in disguise

    + PROS: D
    - CONS: S
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    • Wow… completely unhinged hatred of queer people masquerading as a defense of hamza, and a 2:1 like dislike ratio. I guess that shows who Hamza’s audience is. Makes me glad I stopped watching him after I learned everything he had to offer. As a bi crossdresser, that saddens me.

    • Where’s the hypocrisy?
      Where is OP supporting modern western brainwashing?
      Where did OP even mention transgenders or LGBTQ?
      OP isn’t even trying to cancel the dude, he just pointed out some of the flaws and said to be cautious of paying anything and even said that for some kids his free content might be a good starting point.

      You’re fighting invisible ghosts. It’s almost like you got offended and lead with emotion instead of logic.

  49. why would anyone but a jeffrey watch his content?

    Adonis already knows what to do and does it.
    Adonis doesn’t need advice from some mid-20 year old youtuber.
    Adonis doesn’t need to watch videos for motivation, he has a solid rock foundation of discipline.

    Jeffrey keep watching his vids you probably need the guidance and he might be able to help you, you might find his advice to be new and useful. But jeffrey try to understand that not all of us are at your low level, some of us already heard the advice years ago, some of us are already at decent stages in our lives where watching that stuff is just a waste of time when we could be actually doing something productive or fun instead.

    watching hamza or most self improvement content is like the middle grey area where you’re neither doing anything productive nor doing anything fun. It’s the ultimate time waste unless you’re a jeffrey kid who’s new to self improvement and even then after about a month you really should’ve picked up all the lessons and implemented them then stopped watching.

  50. no way hamza charging $50,000 for “0.1% wealthy men” just so they can pay for his flight to dubai to “spend all day talking YouTube and leave with dozens of new ideas and updated beliefs that will change the course of your business”

    why would someone in the 0.1% wealthy men need to update the course of their business or need new ideas if they’re already in the 0.1% wealth and earning millions lmao. This is just a sneaky way to try and get a lot of money out of rich people who can afford to dish out huge amounts of money.

    L Scamza

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    Bro your just a hater. Just stop it. Your just an instant gratification zombie who cant change.

    + PROS: None
    - CONS: Everything
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    • Looks like someone maybe missed reading the “Am I just a Hater?” section. Sure for we all know he could still be a hater who just wrote that part as an excuse. But saying someone else is a hater or that they aren’t a hater without knowing them at all is just an uninformed opinion based on subjective personal belief. Ok for argument’s sake let’s assume they are a hater, how does that negate the actual points they have made? Ok so if they’re a hater there could potentially be some biased opinions against Hamza, then you should point out what parts/comments you think are bias and the explanation for why you think so.

      And how do you know they are an instant gratification zombie? How do you know they can’t change or haven’t changed? Everything you wrote is simply speculation.

  52. if you find his content to be wise or useful and you’re over the age 18 you must be dumb af lol

  53. L opinion ur such a jeffrey

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    LOL Hamza is trying to grift big amounts of money from rich people now.

    ” Consultation packages:

    1. Intensive 2:1 full day with Hamza and his right hand man Sam (breakfast, lunch, dinner) in Dubai. Bring your laptop, spend all day talking YouTube and leave with dozens of new ideas and updated beliefs that will change the course of your business – $50,000

    2. Monthly coaching – Weekly video call and daily texting for extreme accountability – $40,000

    3. One 1:1 video call with Hamza. Pick his brain, get all your questions answered, learn his YouTube secrets – $10,000 ”

    I suppose it’s less harm if he scams a few rich people than a bunch of kids.

    + PROS: Helpful for kids?? (idk maybe??)
    - CONS: Scammer who tries to rationalize his scamming.
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    You pathetic little geoffrey. Please kill yourself

    • Oh look,we found a 13 year old teenager who blindly listens and follows hamza lol,you need to grow up and stop blindly listening to this hamza guy,you also need to grow some critical thinking skills

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    There will always be that bias from certain fans because they’re responding with emotions instead of seeing the objective facts. So if a fan thinks hamza helped him in some way then hes likely only going to see the positives in hamza and be oblivious to the points of the other side here. It’s also funny that a lot of his fans overlap with being redpillers who push the notion that women respond with emotions instead of facts.

    and unsurprisingly it’s also the positive comments that get upvoted by the masses. It’s very unlikely the people who didn’t benefit from his videos will post “my life still sucks after watching hundreds of videos” and if they did you could probably expect 1. Not many upvotes. 2. The masses would reply about how he should start taking more action and whatever other suggestion/advice they have – you simply wont see those posts because just like on other social media people only like to post about the good stuff not the bad.

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    I think his advice is good for people without a father figure or a father with issues. I would recommend watching his very old videos before he made it all about himself and didn’t promote his cult. He will idealize himself and tell his audience he makes no mistakes.

    + PROS: Good advice for people that need it.
    - CONS: Creator is selfish and does it either for money or fame. Manipulates people into being his sheep.
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    What he’s saying isn’t anything special, pretty much any adult knows the stuff hes saying but the reason kids worship him is because hes got a good way of storytelling. Remember for these kids like 80-90% of self improvement to them is just eating healthy and exercise. It’s great that they’re doing that but they’ve not experienced enough of the real world so as far as they know they think they’re being saved.

    + PROS: good for degens
    - CONS: not a job that requires some unique set of skills or wisdom
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    Look, everybody here may be wrong or right. Hamza has flaws, there are things he does that are wrong and things that he does that are right.

    Were not trying to become like hamza
    Were trying to stop being a Jeffery

    There are so many things that I think hamza has wrong, but I believe self-improvement is important.
    Hamza is shady sometimes, but he’s pretty relatable.
    It isn’t hamza who saved you, It’s the self-improvement, its the work you put in to NOT become a Jeffery. Its the effort you put in to change, and because you put in effort, the gates opened up for you.
    Hamza is sketchy, but I dont hate him for what hes doing.

    Trust or Not
    We are all racing towards one Goal, and only some make it:
    Success

    + PROS: None
    - CONS: None
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    • Ok but no ones saying self improvement itself is bad. Facepalm

      • Then why do people say that Hamza is brainwashing when he produces self improvment content?

        • Marvin debunked this comment and none of the 13 people (assuming they’re all different people) who upvoted could provide a decent response lol

        • There’s a difference between self-improvement itself and producing self-improvement content. There’s a difference between self-improvement itself and just consuming self-improvement content. No one’s saying that improving yourself is bad, but spending hours watching self-improvement content without improving yourself is action faking (if you do both, consume + take action – then fine). And just because someone produces self-improvement content, that doesn’t mean it’s all good either. Yes there’s nothing wrong with repeating the basics like go workout and meditate, but other stuff like when you state incorrect stuff about Testosterone that can be dangerous for young kids hearing it. You can scroll down and read the comments to see some of the stuff people think is wrong with his content, you can see a comment by EDUARDO where he has organized the earlier comments on here.

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    Half of the guys, that hate hamza are the average lazy loser and you’re article is false and you guys are literally dumb and what I hate about you is that you’re a guy that doesn’t know how masculinity works and the guy that hated Andrew Tate, Hamza, and Sneako likes to play video games, watch anime, eats junk and exists as a total sperg.

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    • You can’t really call anyone dumb if you still need guidance from Hamza and you learn from him (well you can but it’s just funny because it’s either hypocrisy or irony). And if you learned “how masculinity works” from guys like Hamza and Sneako, then you can’t really talk lol.

    • 1. “Half of the guys, that hate hamza are the average lazy loser” – Unproven claim made by you that isn’t backed up by any robust evidence.
      2. “article is false” – Vague claim + isn’t backed up any explanation.
      3. “you guys are literally dumb” – Ad hominem.
      4. “what I hate about you” – Admits hate therefore likely biased.
      5. “doesn’t know how masculinity works” – Vague claim + isn’t backed up any explanation.
      6. “likes to play video games, watch anime, eats junk and exists as a total sperg.” – Unproven claim made by you that isn’t backed up by any robust evidence + Ad hominem + Possible projection of own life.

      COMMENT DEBUNKED. However, those ratings are pretty fair for someone that seems to follow hamza (assuming that he realized the ratings are for hamza and not the article).

      • First of all, don’t try and talk or act like you are a scientist. And use comment sense when reading comments. I personally think he is a positive influence, and have had some success with his teachings. I don’t think he is the best out there, but he’s certainly not the worst.

        • Talk like a scientist? Where exactly did I try to talk or act like a scientist? Quote it.

          Not a single scientific statement was made. All that was used was logical fallacies to refute the original comment I was replying to. Then you’re talking about common sense while lacking the common sense to understand that using logical fallacies doesn’t equate to talking/acting like a scientist. It’s easy to just say X or Y without actually backing anything up.

          And then you went ahead and gave your subjective opinion on what you think of hamza and your anecdotal claim of success with his teachings. Not sure why you’re replying to me with that, I never said he isn’t a positive influence, not necessarily saying he is either but my point is I never made a statement regarding that. I never made a statement about what I think of his influence, never said he’s the worst or that he’s bad or good, never said anything regarding it – all I wrote was a rebuttal to the original comment that I responded to.

          Oh man the irony in saying use common sense.

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    Hamza unfiltered vid: “Why you need to learn self defence”

    In the video hamza calls people (90% of people on the platform were women) cowards while doing nothing but record a girl being approached by what seems to be a potential dangerous person. Nice camera work man, you taught him good lmaooo.

    Even if the woman had self defense skills, it would be incredibly difficult to do anything as men tend to be way more physically strong and add on the possibility of him having a weapon it’s not like she could do much, maybe if she was an elite 1% MMA fighter then she might’ve had a chance. Running and seeking help is almost ALWAYS the better option.
    Also technically the people who are standing around and ignoring what’s happening, are masters of self defense. If they were to intervene and escalate, they risk harm to themselves, and that’s not a good self defense strategy. Training in combat sports will likely give you the posture and aura of a confident man or a woman, which will make you less likely to be targeted. However, if you are targeted, best forms of self defense are verbal skills and being the fastest runner with the most stamina in the room. If you’re in a physical alteration, you have failed at self defense. If you overshoot the aggression and violence, you’re no longer defending yourself, you are assaulting someone. You will later have to justify why you sucker punched another person, broke their nose, made them fall back, hit their head on the concrete/tiles, and die/become paralyzed from the neck down.

    Hamza was probably thinking “This would be really good clip for my YOUTUBE social media omg lets record! Gotta remind everyone how badass I am! Yea i would totally beat that guy up! But let me stay here behind the glass”.

    And for those saying he was inside a building – If you been in that area (Canary Wharf) before then you’d know it takes like 20 seconds to get down from where he is.
    For someone who claims to have trained kickboxing for a long time and preach about being tough you could’ve done something. The fact you’re in a building isn’t an excuse, you saw what was happening and just decided to stand there and do nothing but film.

    One may think what’s the context? Was he aggressively asking for spare change or actually starting trouble, because there is an awkward moment where you don’t’ even know if you can cross the line and risk arrest unless you know you are in danger.
    Also towards the end of the video when the woman is backing up and the weirdo is walking forward that’s when the question of context is thrown out and you do something if you want to preach about being brave. At the very least he could have stood next to her as a deterrent. Didn’t need to throw hand’s. I literally caught the same train for 10 year. Lewisham to Canary Wharf. I encountered and dealt with this stuff occasionally. I’ve been doing combat training for 20 years, and even I have to think twice and intelligently assess every conflict situation.

    And you might ask well don’t you think he could’ve got shanked if he did that? Sure maybe, BUT that’s the risk you take if you’re not a “coward”. You can’t call other people cowards if you’re not willing to be a hero yourself. It’s fine if you don’t want to take that risk but don’t call other people cowards if you won’t risk it all yourself. Plus 90% on that platform were women. The issue isn’t even about physically intervening but it’s that he’s going around calling old women and school girls cowards while doing nothing but film.

    The other day hamza was talking about being on a youtube boxing undercard and some of his fans were saying he’d beat up KSI. Now KSI isn’t amazing or anything compared to a lot of pro fighters but he’d still very likely destroy hamza, even Swarmz would likely beat hamza. Hamza hasn’t show a single footage of him being in any fight (includes all types, whether street or amateur or pro). Yet tries to front up this alpha male image. Also physique alone doesn’t win you fights which is evident from that Deji vs Fousey fight.

    25 with a little bit of internet fame is a classic case of losing the humility that people connected with in the first place.
    This is an example of why his viewers should pick up a few lessons, apply them, and then leave the channel. The minute Hamza started calling his following a cult, it was all down hill. And sure some of you may “well, he doesn’t literally mean a cult”. But realize that the dude makes a video about future wife, then sleeps with hook ups in Thailand. Regardless of transparency, he is still deeply flawed.

    Common Hamza L but his community be like “it’s a rare mistake, everyone makes mistakes learn and grow from it”. This is common and every time people keep posting “rare hamza L”. Of course people in his community will disagree but it literally happened a little while ago with an unfiltered vid called “Andrew Tates strategy but wholesome”, before that there was the sneako situation, before that the andrew kirby situation, those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head but theres so many more. Hamza’s probably gonna make a new vid/community post where he makes up some excuse for his action or rather inaction (he’ll probably claim he did something after he stopped recording) and then his community is gonna blindly believe him and go back to praising him.

    + PROS: Motivated some kids to go hit the gym and now they think he saved them because they've been going gym for a while.
    - CONS: Continuously being an L Calls people cowards while sitting there filming. Hasn't shown a single fight footage yet fronts up an alpha male image. Lacks awareness and intelligence by not understanding the optimal thing to do in many situations.
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    This is a good article about Hamza, personally I devoted a large portion of my time to engaging with his self-help content and I’m grateful someone could see his shortcomings where I couldn’t.
    I feel shocked about how flamed both sides are in the comments, or the fact that this is a two-sided issue. So much of Hamza’s fanbase are so defensive, listing only his pros, it feels sour. And to those that feel hatred toward Andrew Tate, 1stman, and Hamza, maybe it’s easy to hate them, maybe that’s what the shit-libs and globalists want you to believe, I couldn’t know, but you’re wrong if all you’ve looked for is confirmation for your bias, and I’ve never purchased Hamza’s course myself but I’ll believe it’s 90% broscience.
    As for the article itself, at this time I’ve only skimmed it. Your argument for Hamza’s very liberal (not liberalist) approach to the use of psychology and manipulation does feel disingenuous especially in the trust-building and relationships of everyone from the young men he teaches to the women he shoots his shots with, and I can confirm this with the narrative or “movement” to form a tribalist or “cult” group of young men who think alternatively to the rest of the world. He builds our trust on a narrative, not reason, that’s why his followers are so attached.
    There’s plenty to go on, but I’m tired of writing now. I think Hamza’s a good stepping stone nonetheless, and I wouldn’t try to die down his efforts of helping men out of depression and anxiety and showing an alternative view on peoples lives. So much of video gaming, the corruption and dominance of the left on political platforms and the rise of wokeness has left young men taught they are without value, Hamza gives men value where there is none, even if it’s his value, if it’s not perfect, not right, he’s not the blue pill and he’s not the black pill, he’s better than that, and he makes men better.

    + PROS: A stepping stone to success. Accessible. Good intentions (somewhat). 80% of men only stand to gain by living out Hamza's advice.
    - CONS: Liberal use of narratives. Defensive. Marketing. Breeding a new culture of tribalism.
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    • There are only a few unconstructive hate comments which are the ones that are like a few lines long. Most of the comments against hamza have elaborate explanations. It’s almost as if you saw the comment by “”SELF”-HELP MUST BURN” then assumed all the comments on the other side were all like that. You mention that hamza’s liberal approach to psychology “does feel disingenuous” – so you’re assessing based on how it FEELS to you rather than looking at it objectively and using logic. It doesn’t really matter what anyone thinks of him, what matters is the truth, it’s about a dissection and examination of the facts, so it doesn’t matter if someone’s opinion is that they think hes a good stepping stone or not. So subjective opinions like that and “Hamza gives men value where there is none”, “he’s better than that”, “he makes men better” etc. these are all your opinion and that’s fine to have but it doesn’t have much substance as an argument in favor of him. Also “80% of men only stand to gain by living out Hamza’s advice” isn’t backed up by anything and is just a random high percentage being thrown out based on the notion that you think he’s providing value where you think there is none. Also Hamza himself has said that hes not an expert on many things in life, he also in his 20s so to give him a 5 star rating for experience is overplaying when he clearly lacks experience in life as shown by how much his thoughts regarding things often fluctuates and the previous factors mentioned.

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    I disagree with this review. Hamza has taught me so much in life, and he helped me and my friend lose 40 pounds each.

    He also went on a free coaching call with me and spent half an hour helping me with my life.

    He helped me to quit my addictions, like porn, video games, music, TV, junk food, social media, etc, and taught me good habits, like weight lifting and meditation. He also spent countless emails with me and my friends on how we could change our life situation, and it worked.

    Me and my friend are both making $10/week through blogging online (small, but a great beginning) at johnkaya.com (me) and lifemaxing.com (my friend,) and I can’t thank Hamza enough for it.

    He really saved my life and I’m forever grateful for him.

    One day I will fly to his house in the UK and thank him, and hopefully reach his level of internet success.

    I no longer watch his videos since I quit YouTube, but I still am forever grateful for him.

    + PROS: He went on a free coaching call with me and spent half an hour helping me with my life. He helped me to quit my addictions, like porn, video games, music, TV, junk food, social media, etc, and taught me good habits, like weight lifting and meditation. He also spent countless emails with me and my friends on how we could change our life situation, and it worked.
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    • $10 a week LOL. Just skimmed through the blogs and it looks like it was written by kids who just reiterated stuff they heard elsewhere.

      If you and your friend are kids then it sort of supports the notion that hamza’s content is more geared towards a young age demographic who are new to self-improvement. Also your comment being uninformed would make sense too like how you start by saying “I disagree with this review” but you don’t actually clarify on what exactly you disagree with. And it’s too vague to just say you disagree with everything or almost everything, there’s a lack of clarity.

      Also you claim he helped you quit social media yet a bunch of your socials are linked on your blogs and you can’t use the excuse that you don’t go on them since as I write this you literally just posted on instagram an hour ago. And if you say well you’re only using socials “in a productive way” (to network or grow your brand or whatever reasoning) then fine but technically you still didn’t quit social media like you claimed you did.

    • Pretty much everything you claimed is based on anecdotal claims, you didn’t actually dispute any of the negative points against hamza. If he helped you then good for you (which may also explain your biased 5/5 ratings for everything, rather than giving an objective view) but he also hasnt helped a lot of people and if it’s true that he went on a free coaching call with you that’s also cool but he has also charged other people near £1000 for an hour call.

      -Anecdotal
      -Didn’t actually dispute anything
      -Not objective: Doesnt understand that just because he (apparently) was helped, that it’s not the same for the rest of the viewers.

      Wouldn’t be surprised if this post was made by hamza himself to make himself look good lol.

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    Lamza, Sneaky, Andrew Rape, 1stBald are a bunch of grifters. Hope their business burn. DO NOT CONSUME SELF HELP TRASH, DOES NOT HELP IN ANY WAY.

    • Just look into your life and realise how big of a loser you’re. I don’t even know you but only by reading this comment i’m 100% sure that you’re someone who has’nt achieved anything useful in life till now, SELF HELP AND SELF IMPROVEMENT ARE DIFFRENT THINGS. Self help is a coping mechanism used by retards like you to deal with your so called mental health problems whereas self improvement is just improving yourself and self improvement of any kind is good for you!!!!!! L JEFFREY

      • I mean like, he does help people get started which I believe is good, but he keeps people addicted to his content and sells overpriced courses. I think this article brings up good points but he definitely does help people.

      • The comment you’re responding to isn’t exactly a constructive one.

        But let’s have a look at what you just said. You’ve just said self-help and self-improvement are different things, and they may be different things TO YOU – that’s fine. HOWEVER, this is going into semantics as to others they mean the same thing – in fact if you look at the wiki for self-help it even says “Self-help or self-improvement is a self-guided improvement…”. So self-help or self-improvement or self-development or personal development or whatever you want to call it, are essentially the same thing to many people.

        Now obviously a certain level of understanding of the English language is required for communication’s sake and there’s clear dictionary definitions for a lot of words. But also know that words can mean different things to different people in different contexts, that’s why if one wants to actually understand another then they should try actually think abt what the other person means. When someone says a word the other person responds to their pictorial representation of what that word means to them, thats y context (extra words) is given to not allow the listener/reader to go in a wormhole to that preformed image – for example, if someone says “Apple” you might think of the fruit but if they add context regarding technology then you might think of the Apple company instead. So yeah you’ve got 2 different concepts for those 2 things, that’s fine but let’s not pretend like these words aren’t often used synonymously. And if you decided to respond to a more constructive comment then perhaps you would see that the criticism here isn’t against the idea of improving oneself but rather against the content regarding it (and more specifically, Hamza’s content).

  66. The most ironic thing is that Hamza is “Jeffrey”.

    1. Hamza is very egotistical, unlike the humble Adonis

    2. Hamza sees so many things as black and white, unlike Adonis he’s not open to other point of views.

    3. Watch his recent video “HAMZA EXPLODES ON ANIME PROFILE PICTURES” He claims that life is a race amongst men and that we are all just competing for females. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to improve yourself for your own personal growth and/or wanting to attract a romantic partner. However, that’s clearly different from devoting your life to a bunch of habits (regardless if you like them or if they align with your goals or personality) just for the sake of females. I bet most if not all females would say that mindset is way over the top if not pathetic.

  67. whats up with his fanbase? they’re so attached to him.
    seen them hype him up so much in the comments of his vids so I checked a bunch of his vids out and it’s all stuff that I already know and I’d never have imagined that someone
    could get praised by like thousands of kids for saying that sort of simple stuff on youtube.
    Maybe we really are living in a simulation lol.

  68. Ya.. I would never pay for any kind of self help advice… I personally think Jordan Peterson might be to polarizing but he is LEGIT.. ( besides from selling tickets for speaking events and books ) if you actually take the time out to listen to him and ACTUALLY go on his website he offers only 2-3 self help Type courses.. each taking maybe a week each.. AND… they are only like $15 each!! That’s hardly enough to put the course together and pay for the website to stay up..? And then on the other side you have some JERK like Tony Robbins charging $1,500+ for a online course?? Research who you are listing to and look and how they are making the majority of there money.. and fyi if you can’t find much on there background or verify any claims.. it’s probably BS.. not to say you can’t be self taught. But look at the evidence

  69. I have stumbled upon Hamza long time ago and since then, his videos were showing up on my board here and then (Polish guy here). I was waving it off since I believed he is another “true chad alpha male who wants you to be the same too” type of coach. Seems like I wasn’t far from being wrong.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysespL3vYgM Skip to 9:21, I can’t believe Hamza shrugs importance of genetics off and blatantly says you can “activate or deactivate your genes” as if growing a beard can be for everyone and if you don’t have a beard then you are probably a beta who plays video games. He has some good sides too, obviously. He throws some valuable tips on how to improve yourself but in the end – you can find it anywhere else on the internet, for free.

    Hamza was lucky enough to be praised by puberty, making him look more attractive afterwards. Not saying that things like hitting the gym, diet, using cosmetics, clothes etc. will not improve your health and presence but some things we simply cannot change.

    Mark my words – sooner or later he will be the subject of one of the SunnyV2 videos.

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    Hamza unfiltered channel video “Andrew Tates strategy but wholesome”:

    He’s telling his audience to waste their time by reuploading his content further reducing the attention spans of young men and derailing their self improvement.
    He’s offering $1000 to one lucky person who gets the most views from doing it.
    The difference between Tate’s strategy and his is that with Tate’s, everyone wins, but with his it’s basically a lottery.

    This is the same thing as Andrew Tates affiliate marketing program disguised as being “wholesome” hamza is a businessman, not your father.
    Every person who posted Tate’s links made money when someone signed up, whereas with Hamza he’s essentially asking everyone to do this for a weekly CHANCE for ONLY ONE to make money. On top of that he sells courses too, just cause the link isn’t to HU doesn’t make it wholesome, it solely benefits him and his message. All of which is fine but don’t act like you’re doing your boys a favor lol.

    Hamza: “Get off social media”
    Also Hamza: “waste a week on social media for a small chance to win $1,000 when your time is worth much more but only I benefit”

    He’s aware that most of his audience are 15 year olds and that they’re easily impressionable and so thinks they’ll see it as “fun community challenge hehe”.
    Ironic that his channel(s) have taught the audience (if they’ve learned anything from his videos..) that your time is actually worth more than the $1000 that’s being offered.

    - CONS: Andrew Tate wannabe. Encouraging young kids to waste their time reuploading his content so he can get more attention. Tells people their time is worth more than $1000 while also telling them to waste so much time for the same amount.
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    • He deleted the video and his fans are posting praises along the lines of “you earned my respect bro!!!” lmfao.

      Of course he’s going to delete the video when a bunch of people saw through his plan and explained how it wasn’t wholesome at all. If he kept the video up then more people would’ve saw it and realized hamza’s not as great as they think, so yeah deleting the video was the expected move to not ruin his reputation.

  71. LOL any positive comment in hamza’s favor got debunked by some other response comment

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    It’s surprising how a regular guy like Hamza, who prior to YouTube had no accomplishments or credible background to him, managed to gather such a cult following of young lost men. It only took an impressive physique, 4chan memes and manipulation/persuasion skills to get his viewers absolutely hooked and revolve their lives around what he says. I’ve seen more than enough of my peers in real life and online base their whole personality around gym, self improvement advice, Zyzz and Hamza, to come to a conclusion that our generation of men are lost; They’re willing to give up their entire individuality and submit to one person because a single guy managed to take advantage of their lack of a father figure in their lives. Even the guys defending Hamza and insulting people with opposing opinions under this comment section is enough proof of the cult following.

    Even if he preaches good habits, opens up about his trauma and tells people to stop consuming, including his videos, in no way it covers up all the shady tactics he uses to create a parasocial relationship with his audience. He might sound like he has everyone’s best interest in mind but does he really? In every single video, he quotes the “hard times create strong men” quote, that hard times are coming because of the weak men and the only way out is to join HIS cult, follow HIS exact footsteps. Everyone who doesn’t will live an unfulfilling lives like Jeffrey. “I’m on your side!”. What are you, Hamza, a messiah? Just because you preach meditation, dopamine detox, reading and gym? This is all basic. Creating all of these illusions to make it seem that your audience is contributing to the greater good is all but a trick to get people stuck watching you since you’ve hyped yourself up so much. Damn, even you telling your audience to stop your videos is a trick to seem like a good person because 99.9% won’t.

    To further give proof to the fact he is a fraud is him promoting the idea of starting a channel like his because “it makes the creators hold themselves accountable” and again, “help other young men” and also telling people to copy him and use his name for more clicks. All of this might sound sweet but in no way does this have any basis for people’s channels’ success. I’ve seen countless channels following his footsteps and all of them struggle to get past a thousand views. They all speak with no conviction, have no personality, just nerds that follow anything Hamza says. He has sold this whole ridiculous lie just so these creators can promote his channel and grow the cult.

    The worst part is he has bashed other self improvement channels countless of times over them being basic but the irony is he has said the exact same stuff but more dumbed down and made the community more toxic.

    + PROS: decent basic advice
    - CONS: extremely manipulative repetitive content unentertaining immature and huge superiority and savior complex
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  73. just another fake self-help guru making easy money & views off mostly half-witted kids who are amazed at rudimentary knowledge and think their lives are so much better now that they’ve discovered what a gym is

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    this dude doesn’t stick to his words, everything is a strategy to have his viewers keep watching him. Even the rare times where he’ll tell people to stop watching his vids, in the grand scheme he knows that saying that will just make him come across as more genuine and so most people aren’t going to stop watching him just because he said that.

    hes also made a vid asking whether he should take up a muay thai fight, which is pretty evident that hes just all talk to seem more alpha, doubt he’d ever actually do it.
    he also made a vid on his unfiltered channel saying he’s considering quitting, which again is just all talk, hes not going to quit any time soon until his views start going down. It’s evident hes not going to quit as he still posts every day. The only thing hes not all talk for is keeping fit.

    - CONS: mostly just all talk. sometimes takes like 20-30 mins to say a simple point.
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    Cope

    + PROS: very helpful advice if you didnt know about it helps you find purpose in life motivates you transform from obese garbage to high value motivates you to get girls motivates you to not end up like the random square shaped body fat guys walking on the streets intimacy deprived
    - CONS: None
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    • if you scroll down and find a comment by “Bunny” in one of the paragraphs it explains the problem with watching videos for motivation. I’m guessing this JAKEDACAKE guy upvoted his own comment like 20+ times just simply based on the fact that not a single person has responded to ANY of the rebuttal’s against watching for “motivation”. Surely if 20 different people actually upvoted his comment then at least one of them would respond to the rebuttals against it.

    • Dude really thinking Hamza is flawless by adding no cons and giving him 5 stars for everything. This is what Hamza wants you to do. He wants you to think of him as the hero – full of humility, strength, integrity, wisdom. All because he convinced every young fatherless guy he’s changing lives. Even though every guy could just google and read about good habits and get their life together without the help of Hamza. You’re giving him too much credit

    • why do you need to rely on the “motivation” that another man gives you to get your own life together? why not search it from within? this all proves the fact hamza viewers cant think for themselves and are too attached to him

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    if anybody genuinely think that someone telling u to hit the gym, get a hobby and stop beating ur meat is life changing advice just lol. Imagine needing someone to tell u that jfl. His audience is so braindead they actually keep watching the same stuff (which he has even admit is entry-level) over and over every day and convince themselves it’s for motivation or they’re learning new things and that it’s helping lool.

    youtubers dish out enough free content that only low-iqcels would bother buying their paid course. Literally EVERYTHING is the same message in the videos, and yet the low-iqcels need more clarification from some paid course or coaching. Tbh props to him scamming these low-iqcels who couldn’t figure it out after 50 videos of the same thing.

    pretty impressive how good he has disguised himself as someone who’s trying to help young males and then when those who do start makin some improvement start owing a bunch of that progress to him, while the rest who don’t improve keep dreaming that the next hamza vid will be the one to save them.

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    Why did you make this?

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    • Yeah hamza is not worth to write an essay about. I guess it’s to warn stupid teenagers that spends their parents money on bad coaching and it seems like the dude accomplished his mission with hamza taking down the coaching stuff (probably because he gets enough money from views nowadays). Although hamza’s still grifting with an aesthetics course which apparently contradicts stuff said in his gym guide w no bs that has over 2mil views.

      • Dude’s mission wasn’t quite accomplished, Hamza is back at it with “Adonis School” which requires a $499 entry fee followed by $99 per month. I do think it’s futile to write so much about him because there will always be young impressionable people who are just so desperate for the hopes that hamza has sold them. However, maybe if even a few people are able to wake up from this article and see what hamza is really doing then that could be considered a good thing.

  78. Hamza, Sneako and a bunch of these other youtubers have some strange takes. Most of them being in their 20s they have some hard reality checks coming. The whole lot of them got a lot of learning and growing up to do. Though the thing is the kids watching them are usually even younger than them and don’t really know who else to take advice from and are relying on some guidance.

    There may be a lot of better people to watch and take advice from, however, they may not be as entertaining or relatable and so most the kids don’t feel like watching those other people. It’s like back in school where you’d get some teachers who were smart but boring and then others who were fun but not so smart, rare it was that like 1 or 2 teachers in the whole school were both smart and made the subject interesting.

  79. It was pretty funny to see hamza go thailand claiming it was for fun and to learn some muay thai, the dude probably took wheat waffle’s advice and tested out the whole geomaxxing thing or whatever you call it.

    delay gratification
    be disciplined to do work when you dont feel like it
    get passive income

    wow so wise lol. self help content is largely a farce. Heres 5 habits to become this and 3 ways to do that. There is a difference between continuously improving yourself and continuously watching self improvement videos. People’s immediate reaction to this is that they want guidance and that continuous learning is good. Though they don’t seem to understand that if you tell someone ‘The How’, they’ll always come back and ask if ‘The How’ was correct.

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    seen way better self-improvement content than his

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    Hamza gives plenty of good advice, eventough he might say something stupid everynow and then, in general it’s positive advice that benefits everyone. He never adverstised his courses on his videos and honestly you got to be kinda stupid to think that spending hundreds of dollars on a youtuber’s course makes sense. Most youtubers sell courses and that’s just how it is. Its pretty profitable for them. I add that he has actually said multiple times that people should not watch his videos because it’s not a productive usage of time.
    You surely have too much time on your hands to write all this over some dude from youtube lol.

    + PROS: great advice
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    • How one wishes to spend their time is entirely up to them, maybe they found it satisfying to write all that then it shouldn’t matter to them. For all we know the dude could’ve written this also to work on his writing skills lol. Point is people often only see things from their own perspective, so if you’re someone who thinks anything that isn’t productive is a waste of time then you’ll probably obsess over how people spend their time and think that anything that doesn’t align with your own view of well-spent time is a waste of time. Then again if that’s your logic, then reading this article and commenting here or watching a bunch of self-improvement vids must mean you got too much time on your hands too lol. Also he advertises his aesthetic course under the description of nearly every youtube vid he makes, so much for “he never advertised his courses on his videos” lmao

      If you think his advice is wisdom or great then you probably are new to self-improvement. He says himself that his content is just basic introductory level, so if that basic stuff is beneficial to you then you probably should continue watching it.

  82. I like how the jeffries who he is talking about are literally his fan base.
    The sad thing is thousands of 10-17 year olds actually think he’s the perfect role model and they will defend him with their life.
    Pretty funny when he said he did some research on sneako to find out about stuff he did in the past, when if you just do a simple search on hamza you can see his address.

  83. *beta male was insulted by Hamza*

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    I feel like his general image and what he posts on some of his YouTube videos is EXTREMELY helpful, he is motivating, he has self help videos and he is genuinely helping me a lot. However, I will never buy his course, and I won’t watch his useless or harmful videos. I know you don’t like Hamza for the people he has scammed with his course, and from what I have heard it doesn’t give any info already on his YouTube channel. Though with all this being said, those people chose to spend their money in a bad way, it’s not their fault, it isn’t anyone’s, though this long response hating on him isn’t necessary. One example is you hating on the amygdala=lizard brain, I think he mentions in once in the video, but meditation and dopamine detox does help, I know because that is what I have been doing, unlike you clearly. I hate to be so cold to you man, but you deserve some criticism for being such an egotistical bastard, you can’t blame him for running a business and other people falling for it, EVERY COMPANY DOES IT, it’s just a matter of who falls for it.

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    • if he helped you a lot then why did you give him half a star rating for everything lmao.
      Seems like you fit under the ‘it’s great advice guys’ section. You said “you can’t blame him for running a business” and there’s literally a section in the article called “I don’t blame Hamza” where the guy talks about how consumers should take responsibility too. Did you even read the article lol? No one’s saying meditation and dopamine detox doesn’t help, in fact that article says the opposite under section “The basic message of Hamza’s is good”. With your assumptions “unlike you clearly” and insults “egotistical bastard”, seems like you’re mad at the guy for making this article which just shows how attached you are to self-help youtubers.

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    So hamza says be like adonis, not like him. Fine.

    Then why in his video “The ‘Why Self Improvement Is Ruining Your Life’ Frauds” in the description it says “Do not trust youtubers, especially not self improvement youtubers. Do I have to say it again? If he’s not jacked, you can’t trust him to give you advice on how to improve yourself – he hasn’t even done it himself!”

    So he’s saying not to take advice from someone who isn’t embodying the right stuff yet at the same time saying not be like him. He contradicts himself, why take advice from someone who isn’t embodying this “adonis” image.

    and yeah him saying he was ignoring sneako’s calls like an ex-gf is exactly the redpill techniques that he was trying to distance himself from being when he talks bad about guys like freshandfit.

    - CONS: immature still doing those manipulative redpill stuff that he talks against disrespected sneako who was trying to squash the beef
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  86. After seeing the sneako and hamza phone call where he says he aired sneako to treat him like an ex-gf and that he was bringing up personal stuff just to try and hurt sneako, it just shows this guy hasn’t changed since what he did to andrew kirby. Sure his content might have helped some young kids here and there but that doesn’t excuse all the bad stuff and he definitely gets more credit than he deserves since he admits it himself that a lot of the stuff he says is just from self-help books. It’s a shame his fans don’t see through him but it’s also understandable when most of them are really young.

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    June 4, 2022 at 5:45 pm

    My 14yo son’s life was severely damaged by the freak cult of Hamza.
    I would like to get in touch with people who are either going through the same thing themselves or their kids (like my case).
    Thank you

  88. Hamza’s fan base is full of around 12y/os and if he has helped some of them then good for them but there are a lot of things wrong with these self-help content which he probably knows himself. Hamza also covers his tracks well, like he’ll do an Eminem 8 mile kind of move where he’ll admit to a bunch of things (doing it for the money, getting his info from books etc.) and tell you not to binge his content and so on so you can’t really use it against him even though those things still remain valid.

    He’s not worth watching for most people above a certain age but he could be useful to some young teenagers.

  89. I watched pretty much all his videos on money.
    There was one called “how to ACTUALLY get rich quick” where he basically takes almost 50 minutes to say Step 1: do a thing. Step 2: put it on social media. Step 3: profit

    He’s acting like he’s done some back breaking grueling work and got “rich” when in reality he just made videos discussing obvious stuff. I do admire what he’s managed to build though.

    Another video was about how he makes 25k in a month which was about 30 minutes long.
    The first 5 minutes he’s just ranting about how we’ve been taught the wrong mindset of making money, next 10 minutes is just him talking about how he was make little money from his old job and some other story telling. Then he finally gets to the point which is a well-known concept and he talks about it for 5 minutes to tell you it’s value x scale. The 20min mark is basically when he actually starts giving out the advice and that is how you should aim to give value to younger-self because that’s the only person you can relate to. Also says use a social media platform you prefer and have consistency of posting at least 1-2 times per week.

    It’s cool that it worked for him but you can’t make the assumption that just because it worked for you that it will work for everyone else.

    And there was a comment saying “Nothing is too saturated. There’s a pizza place on every corner and nobody is complaining saying there are too many pizza places.” which is just completely wrong. The difference is the location and speed at which you can obtain that thing. With information on the internet you can find some things incredibly quick. If there’s only 1 pizza place within 1 minute walking of where I live then that’s going to stand out compared to the rest of pizza places.

    Seems like his ideas on finance are all just taken from guys like Sam Ovens, Naval Ravikant, MJ Demarco, Tim Ferriss, and then he’s added his own spin to it. I think he even said he read books from the latter 2 which is fine but his addition to it isn’t great. I also wish he’d just get to the point in these long vids instead of dragging it out to get more watch-time.

  90. Hamza fans are mad funny. The way they worship him when he says some common sense stuff is actually jokes.

    Even Hamza is pretty funny himself the way he gets gassed at some stuff like I saw one of his unfiltered videos about beliefs and attitudes where he mentions the milkshake study and hotel worker study which seems like he had just watched some video that had Alia Crum on it (as those are 2 studies she was part of and usually references) and then immediately made a video about it.

    Some of these kids probably haven’t heard of the mindset stuff or read Carol Dweck books so it’s fine that hamza spreads the messages of what he learns to kids who are clueless of the info but the way some of them say he’s so wise for saying the stuff that he has heard elsewhere without referencing where (maybe he forgot, doubt it tho) is amusing.

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    The “self-improvement trap” of watching many self improvement videos without progressing much in life is so secluded among all the other self-help stuff. Hamza mentioned it a lot more in his older videos before he blew up but if you see now he hardly ever mentions it, last I remember he mentioned it in some 3 min video titled “I don’t watch Hamza’s videos anymore” but that will be forgotten about quick as he pumps out new videos daily, and so it becomes very diluted. Even stuff on his unfiltered channel is now becoming repetitive things he has already spoke about. He doesn’t push the message of the self improvement trap enough anymore because it’d cause his views to go down. He hides behind the excuse that he still posts for “jeffries” to introduce them to self-improvement which is questionable as most people who’d find his videos are most likely already aware of self-help as they would’ve had to type something self-help related for his videos to get suggested in the first place. And not to mention that most people deep down know the basic message hamza preaches, like it’s common sense that you can improve yourself if you’re disciplined with focused-work, exercising, meditation etc.

    + PROS: He has shown some vulnerability in older videos of his like the long videos such as the "Getting Relationship Therapy" video, which is more than what most of the other youtubers in his field have done.
    - CONS: Doesn't talk about the secluded things enough, while keeps repeating the popular things that lots of other youtubers already say. He's just like most of the other youtubers except for the pro mentioned.
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  92. I speed read through the comments and a lot of valid points were made against Hamza but here is what you all need to understand:

    If some kids have been watching his content and seen some improvements in their life then they aren’t going to care much about the criticism on him and they have a bias in his favor. Therefore most of the kids won’t bother reading some of the long comments here because they just don’t care and a lot of them are probably even incapable of having the concentration power to do so.

    Just let these kids go through this self help phase, if you think about it a lot of them would just be doing some other pointless activity instead. This article actually seems pretty fair in that it isn’t telling people to stop watching him and it’s just mentioning some of his faults.

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    Hamza is wrong about the stuff he says regarding competition.
    Sure there is no need to get offended at competition but there’s no need to take that path either.

    Here’s why competition tends to not work well in the long run:

    Most people are actually already competing with each other, they tend to look at the things that are in play, and enter into a conflict in order to achieve that thing. And it has lead most of them basically nowhere. What tends to happen is a game within the game, in just becoming slightly better than your competitor, and only just exceeding them by an inch.

    Competing with someone can essentially be a road to mediocrity. Competition usually breeds parity. The reason parity exists, is because everyone competes. Where there is competition, there HAS to be parity, because everyone chooses to fight for the same prize. As long as you are committed to besting the next person, the moment you best him by an inch, you’re likely to stop, ensuring that you only get to a certain point when you could otherwise go way beyond. If my view was that competition is the way, then naturally my pursuit would be to go and out-practice the other, in hopes that I could get 1% better than him. What do you do when your competition begins to fall off drastically (or die)? Do you just look for new competition? What then when things begin to repeat like the former competition? Again look for a new competition? This would just lead to continual seeking of competition which requires using some focus on deciding who to compete with and every time you make comparisons with the competition you devote some focus onto them instead of just working on your craft.

    Using ego/competition as a drive to get better is just temporary relief that can get you depleted after using it for long time. It’s just motivation until it dies out. Choose discipline over that motivation. Yes motivation is good if it comes along the way naturally but True discipline does not need such motivation from competing, Choose the path of mastering something, as opposed to a path of competition. Yes society will often force people into such competitions like for instance a 100m race, but the hard work preparation for the run is behind the scenes which can be from a place of mastery mindset instead of competing mindset.

    Competition is for those who have not mastered, and they have nothing left to do but compete. If you master darts, and you can hit the bullseye every time, why would you compete? You’d have no competition. Competition is for those who haven’t learned to hit the bullseye every time, and they’re getting together to compete, to see who can get closest. True greatness comes from mastery.

    One should experiment for themselves to see if competing works for them or not. If you think it does work for you then you do you but the above explanation is why it tends to not work for the majority of people.

    And you can’t “do both”.
    The 2 are mutually exclusive, you can’t be on both – if you’re on the path of mastery then that’s a different path to the path of competition. You see the thing with Kobe and other similar elite level athletes is that the competitiveness is in the moment of the game. Aforementioned, society will force upon competition in scenarios (such as 100m example I gave earlier). So yes they are competing and being competitive in such moments of the actual game but they’re deep down on the path of mastery as they do the thing because of their love for it, not out of competition – the competition comes later in a forced-context, but the mastery of the craft is all behind the scenes. Hamza since he preaches about competition and ego, therefore is very likely not on the path of mastery and he has said nothing to make it seem so.

    I’ll explain more clearly why competitive and mastery are mutually exclusive:
    To truly be on the path of mastery is to abandon the need of anything else, be it competition, success, failure etc. To be on the path of mastery is to give yourself completely to that respective craft. Learn everything about it. Immerse yourself in it. Drink it. Suck the marrow out of it. Forget entirely, whether you will fail or succeed. Whether you will progress or not. Whether you will “make it” or not. Whether you will become known or not. Simply do it for its own sake. Do it for the joy that you experience whilst doing it. And do it with every drop of blood rushing through your heart. Come what may.
    With mastery you have freedom of outcome of everything else – be it, what that success will bring you, how wealthy you’ll become, how it will feel to have “made it”, the pleasurable aspects of what the success will gain someone, how you relate in comparison to others at it. Freedom from all of that, you give yourself entirely to the craft – that is the path of mastery.

    - CONS: He mainly just lacks the experience to know any better and therefore encourages his viewers down wrong path when it comes to mindsets. He is only fine for telling people to do basic known good habits.
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    If you admit to something then a lot of people seemingly don’t bat an eye. Hamza admits to a bunch of things and then young kids actually praise him for being brave to admit those things. A lot of Hamza’s viewers don’t seem to realize that just because he admits to something that doesn’t negate the initial point.

    oh he admitted running a business,
    oh he admits using broscience,
    oh he admits he isnt perfect,
    oh he admits to getting info from reading books.

    As someone else pointed out, not admitting to something that is obvious will just make you look worse. And admitting to it can make you look more genuine and honest.

    If hamzas just repeating stuff from self help books and then you think that’s life-changing info then is it really hamza who is helping you? Ok, how about if some 15y/o kid makes his own youtube self help channel and just repeats exactly what hamza or other self help youtubers says and then you find that to be life-changing, you may say the 15y/o youtuber changed your life while being unaware that he’s repeating stuff said by hamza/other self help youtubers. The point here is that too much credit is given to the person who repeats the info. Spreading a message is one thing but giving inordinate amount of credit to someone relaying that message is a completely different thing.

    And then you may defend by saying “Maybe people like hamza so much because of HOW he presents the information?”
    And ok I understand the possible reasons for why some kids might like to watch him, whether that is how he presents the information (his tone, his use of memes, or whatever it is). What I’m saying is it doesn’t take much effort to present already said information by others, in one’s own way and thereby amount of credit due is blown out of proportion. Going back to the example of the 15y/o youtuber who would repeat what hamza says, if a lot of people like how he presents the information it doesn’t change the fact that he would still be repeating what Hamza says. Also to add, some of his viewers specifically say it’s the advice he gives that they think is life-changing, and then give all the credit for that repeated advice to him.

    The amount of credit given for repeating info from elsewhere being a lot could be to the cognitive bias that they only heard it from hamza and completely associated the positives of the info with him.

    Also saw hamza’s unfiltered video “You are a tribesman”. He clearly just reads some stuff and then assumes that the stuff he read is right.
    The only reason you say that human beings are social animals is because what society has told you. How do you know that human beings are social animals? The only reason you’d say that in a verification-esque way is if you looked around and you look at human beings and they were all socializing. Yes, human beings been doing a lot of things but what they are doing and what they naturally are, are two different things. So to try to determine what a human being fundamentally is by looking at his behaviour is not an adequate representation and it is not the proper examination of evidence. So you have come in with a claim, a concept, which is not your own, which is not born of truth. You don’t know that a human being is a social animal. (Obviously not saying to not socialize, just talking about society’s conditioning into making people blindly believe certain concepts or whatever they heard/read from wherever and didn’t truly examine it).

    - CONS: What he did to Andrew Kirby was out of order. His apology to Andrew Kirby didn't seem sincere. He makes a lot of assumptions and acts as if they're facts (I believe he said this is to sound convincing).
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    • Humans are claimed to be many things fundamentally. There are many things that he claims to be true which do make sense if you think about them deeply enough. He also rushes to claim certain things without enough experience as well. But one thing’s certain. Human beings crave importance and recognition. Everyone is charmed if their ego is inflated, or if they are convinced to sell stuff to themselves with their own reasoning, or when there’s sympathy put to practice. The book ‘How to win friends and influence people’ demonstrates this perfectly.

      Hamza’s skills in influencing are definitely heavily influenced by that book. Males in particular, in this case, tend to crave dominance and adventure, and to leave some kind of big mark on this world. Some do it though business. Others through family. Others did it with empires. Whatever we do, we do it for some form or another of recognition. All people. When there’s no recognition, relationships deteriorate, and we start dying. Many modern men, however, have been conditioned to not be ambitious, whilst being so deep within their core, causing them to fall victim to time wasting bad habits (video games clearly exploit base male cravings and I know so because I was one myself) and crap mental health. At least he spreads the message of waking up from this, although I do agree that his courses are probably too overpriced and he does rush to things he still doesn’t understand clearly.

      • Humans are claimed to be many things fundamentally which they are not, quite simply because society isn’t sincerely interested in the truth and therefore they do not deeply sincerely examine these things. Human beings craving importance and recognition isn’t the same as them fundamentally being social animals. A more accurate statement would be to say human beings are fundamentally pleasure-seeking animals and the craving for importance + recognition + other things is because the human being gets a sense of pleasure from those things. It’s the pleasure of feeling like they’re importance, it’s the pleasure of having recognition, the pleasure of this and that. Even the act of socialization is done out of pleasure. Therefore, the more accurate statement is to say Human beings are pleasure-seeking animals.

        And “How to win friends and influence people” is an incredibly basic self-help book which pretty much everyone reads as soon as they enter the self-help space. It’s full of rudimentary advice – smile, remember names, people love talking about themselves, make the other person feel importance, dont criticize, you can’t change peoples mind via debating, etc. It’s a book that just states the obvious. If it helps some then so be it good for them but it’s also useless for many others. It all comes down to the individual.

        You’re right that many modern men are conditioned to not be ambitious and to just play video games. But understand that thinking you’ve got to accomplish this and that, is just another form of conditioning. If you live in society the chances are you’re conditioned without even being aware of it. Just because you look back at historic men and see them building empires or whatever, that doesn’t mean they weren’t conditioned either. All beliefs/ideas/concepts are conditionings, only the truth isn’t conditioning. And the only thing that really matters is the level of peace/bliss/freedom that permeates through one’s life, and so if one finds themselves having higher levels of bliss than others doing so-called “unproductive things” then so be it why would it even matter to them. Pretty much all human beings are conditioned (other than incredibly rare enlightened beings that have transcended the mind) because of the nature of the human mind to produce thoughts and desires and then the human being attaches to certain thoughts and desires just as you perhaps think “dominance and adventure” is the right way to live. The truth is there’s no actual right or wrong way. The only thing matters is whatever’s most practically immediately useful to a human being – and that may vary to different people.

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    People should really think again before deciding to purchase his $197.99 aesthetic course when all the info is out there for free on the internet

    And then you may say “everything is available for free out there.”
    Firstly, I’m specifically talking about regarding hamza’s aesthetic course’s info being out there for free, not other stuff.
    Because to an extent sure info on nearly everything is available for free, but there’s a HUGE difference between finding simpler information such as that on aesthetics/fitness vs something a lot more intricate such as building a whole airplane. Yes you pay for saving time and that’s exactly the point, it doesn’t take much time finding the info on health and fitness whereas it’d be way way more time-consuming to gather info on something like building an airplane.
    There are also factors like the reliability of the source that you’re getting information on a topic for, so there’s a difference between getting the info from an expert of the respective field VS someone who isn’t an expert.

    This aesthetic course is just by some 24y/o guy on the internet who has put together a bunch of info of what has worked personally for him, very much anecdotal. Roger Federer and Messi can tell you all about how they swing a racket or kick a ball around but the chances are you won’t be able to replicate it in such a degree. Therefore it very much depends on the subject, and in this case that is aesthetics – to which, how-tos and methods can only serve as a guideline (mechanics of fat loss, healthy diet, diet to add muscle etc.) and won’t necessarily guarantee someone to have the same aesthetics as hamza or their own desired aesthetic either. And to find the info for that guideline on your own for free doesn’t take long at all.

    Also check out youtuber “intellectual-muscle” who did a video on hamza titled “Why @Hamza Unfiltered is WRONG about Fitness & Workouts (knows NOTHING about Training)”

    - CONS: Hamza gets a lot of things wrong about fitness Charges a lot of money for info that is out there for free and easily accessible
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  96. I just saw the unfiltered truth video by andrew kirby. I’m not a fan of kirby either but what hamza did was such a low blow. Hamza is just status-driven which is fine but a lot of people don’t seem to understand that and think he always has other peoples best interest which just isn’t the case. Hamza is most of the time he’s assuming concepts as true that when debated can be pretty harmful in the long run.

    Hamza is quite immature because he’s only 24. He’s gotten a taste of the cash know and understands how this YouTube algorithm game works, so it makes sense why if someone is morally sketchy you would employ tactics like this.

    I feel he’s way too playful with his apology to andrew kirby. Like, he’s down-playing how it negatively affected you, and making it appear like it’s all banter and you’re ‘bros’.
    Even his ‘spot on’ response to your tweet. And his laughy/giggly private video to you apologizing for his contribution to your ‘quarter-life crisis’.
    Something feels off. Maybe it’s his attempt at ‘cool’/’unbothered’ humility?
    And if he’s truly remorseful about unnecessarily dragging your ass on the internet, why was the video still up and only taken down after Andrew made that unfiltered truth video (confirmed as I and others had seen that video just at the time andrew had uploaded his vid and then few hours later it was gone)?

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    Some kid who watches hamza vids regularly tried to say he’d give a neutral review of this article and then it ended up being the whole video of him just trying to defend hamza. And his whole video ended up getting debunked by a comment – here’s the comment below:

    It seems like a negative article as there are a lot of criticism there but I don’t really care what kind of article it is as I’m more interested in the actual content and whether those criticism are valid or not.

    1. Title – “he’s trying to sell hatred”. Ok so this is your opinion, not a fact. Either way don’t think the title really matters as the guy probably just wanted something he thought was catchy.

    2. In the article where it says “no special advice pretty obvious stuff TO ME” the article mentions that it being obvious advice is his opinion to his personal self so how you going to disagree with something that is an opinion relating to how it personally is to him lol. Then you try to give your own opinion about how it is unique (which fair enough if it is to you then that’s personally how you feel) and then go “uhh not sure about that”.

    3. “People would pay for stuff on his 2nd channel”. Well, some people would pay for anything that they think is worth it so there might even be people who would pay for stuff on his main channel or for stuff on some other self improvement youtube channel. So yeah he could sell that in a course BUT we don’t know how many people would pay for it and whether in comparison it would bring in more money or not than the views he gets from all those vids.
    “I think it’s something he feels passionate about..” ok so this is your opinion, we don’t know if he’s actually passionate about helping others.

    4. “Someone’s time is a bit different to someone selling their book”. Correct, I agree with this point.
    But just to add to go back to the previous point, Jordan Peterson also has his own youtube channel podcast which people would probably pay for and Dr.K (healthygamergg) does hour long self help/mental health related twitch streams which people also would probably pay for. So in this regards Hamza’s not some unique generous person for giving out free info.

    5. “I’m sure if Jordan Peterson was to sell his time it would be just as high”. There’s no way for us to actually know that and even then if he were to that doesn’t mean it’d be worth it either.

    6. “He’s lived through that person, he’s came out through the other side”. We don’t actually know this for sure, it’s his own anecdotal claim and it’s unfalsifiable for others to know what one is actually going through in their own mind or unless you lived with him in the same house for all those years you wouldn’t know his actual relation to instant gratification.

    7. The article said “healthy food are NOT ALWAYS more expensive”, he didn’t say that junk food is more expensive, those are 2 different statements. And it depends on the location too, and I’d agree I’ve seen a lot of junk food be more expensive than healthy food and I’ve seen the reverse too, so it varies. Also in this context you can’t really compare the price of a chocolate bar to a whole meal. You sorta just said “everyone knows [my opinion]” then brushed off his explanation as to why SOMETIMES junk food is more expensive.

    8. “Hamza preaches reading thats a bit of a fault in the article”. The article didn’t say all young people might be thinking that stuff about watching hamza instead of reading books, article clearly says “SOME of you younger guys”.

    9. Regarding hamza calling people clickbait – that wasn’t just for nofap. If you click on that link in the article it shows the “self improvement videos are ruining your life frauds” where he calls out other youtubers for being clickbait.

    10. Regarding the video about psychologically manipulating women.
    If you’re going to say some stuff is “waffling” you should quote which part in particular and give an elaborate explanation on how exactly you think it’s waffle. I do agree with your point about “ignoring it”, but that’s your interpretation of that video. Not everyone will interpret the basic message of that video to be like that. A lot of young guys will take things literally and when you’re a self-development coach for young guys it’s important to articulate yourself well and clarify on things to be absolutely clear about what you mean.
    (In fact even hamza has taken back the stuff he said in that video as he mentions it was back when he was influenced by redpill youtubers).

    + PROS: He has taken down the overpriced coaching sessions and for that he gains a little bit more trust
    - CONS: Most of the cons I can think of have already been mentioned by others
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    The People here are mad funny, go cry Jeffrey.

    + PROS: Thick glutes
    - CONS: Advices Bodybuilding
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  99. A lot of people have a narrow perspective and thinking.

    Some kid wrote in hamza’s unfiltered video “Criticise me to start your YouTube channel” that he was being so generous to encourage young kids to make their own channel. lol it’s not really generous when it’s very beneficial to him. If you have his name in the title yes that vid is going to get more views than your other vids but your channel most likely won’t blow up. It’s a lot more likely they’ll search up Hamza instead if they don’t already know who he is and start watching him, which therefore just increases Hamza’s YouTube channel. In the vid Hamza said – there may be people out there that don’t like him and would resonate more with your personality. BUT this is just another case of Probability vs Possibility or Majority vs minority. There are a lot of people who get massive views on just one video while there channel doesn’t blow up. It’s way more likely that a lot more people are going to find out about and watch hamza rather than people resonating with most of the guys making new vids, especially considering if they’re followers of hamza then most of what they’re going to say is just stuff hamza has already said with a slight difference. Also a smart move by Hamza to tell his viewers to make videos criticizing whatever they think he is wrong on because what that does is it means it’s going to dilute and make it harder to find those genuine decent critic vids on him by people who aren’t his fans, and instead means theres going to be a bunch of videos that may not even be decent criticism and rather in support of hamza, since the hamza fans making a criticism video are more likely to be something like “i think hamzas wrong on this one thing…[then talks a bunch of positive stuff about hamza]” which then makes viewers want to check out hamza.

    When Hamza comments on some new content creator’s video that has his name in the title, it’s not necessarily that hes supporting new creators but more that he just searches for positive things about himself for the emotional gain that he gets out of it, y’know like the ole “focus on the positives not the negatives” but going a step further and actively seeking for it.
    Also as an example, if someone quits video games and then they start to be more productive and see their life improve, they often attach the quitting video games to life improving and then form a certain bias in that way of thinking. But of course you can also not quit video games and improve life too. People are just unaware of their own perspective cognitive bias.

    Hamza made a video “Why I act broke whilst making £30k a month” where he tries to justify why he doesnt look rich and all the while trying to convince people that hes wealthy. He has stated he earns £30k a month numerous times and some say he just pretends that to make his viewers be more impressed with his image. In his video he talks about how hes always honest and how his viewers should know that lol. You can be honest 95% of the time then lie 5% of the time and most wouldn’t think you’re lying, and that 5% of lies could be major lies. No one can know for a fact if you’re a totally brutally honest authentic person, if they think that then they’re completely brainwashed because it’s impossible to actually tell just from the tone of someone in videos without empirical evidence (which he says he won’t show – which is also fine since he says he doesn’t care if people believe him or not but then why keep mentioning it over and over again trying to convince people that you do make that much lol). Social blade statistics, (takes into account the views by the way) firstly it’s an estimate and secondly the estimates are £1.8K – £29.3K monthly, £22K – £352.1K for yearly. So you’re just assuming he always gets the maximum estimate. For all we know the true earnings could be on the lowest end of the estimates and it could be £30k in a year instead. (This is just from what I personally know – from a youtuber i know irl who averages around the same daily views as hamza, the earnings is somewhere in the middle and actually much closer to the low estimate). Now that’s just youtube, I dont know his other source of income and how much he earns from it. But let’s just assume he really is earning £30k a month, it’s pretty wild that a mid-20y/o guy wearing his bathrobe in his parents house making mostly around 5 min videos daily on generic self-help stuff and have his editors do all the other work, is earning in a month about as much as some healthcare professionals like nurses make in a whole year. And if he’s really earning £30k a month then why would he have such expensive coaching prices in the first place.

    If you got the basic message by him then all that’s really left is to put the advice to practice. There’s no reason to keep watching his videos for motivation. Discipline > Motivation. And you don’t need motivation to build discipline either, if the motivation comes then cool but to actively seek it is completely different. Motivation is always fleeting, also hamza himself says “do the hard work especially when you don’t feel like it” therefore by that logic you should be able to build discipline even if you’re not motivation to build discipline. And once you’re truly disciplined you wouldn’t need any motivation for that discipline. Also that basic message/advice is something most people already know that they should be doing (deep work, exercise, good sleep, good diet, etc.), to put that advice into practice consistently is what discipline is all about, which you certainly don’t need to watch Hamza to do.

    it’s funny hamza preaches about mental health but hes out there saying don’t watch sports or tv, don’t play video games etc. and despite saying he’s not pushing for the hustle culture, he’s constantly pushing for productivity which he then tries to justify by saying even talking to a friend is being productive lol. The dude keeps saying do the hard work when you don’t feel like it but then also says to try to minimize the amount of work you need to do, get a passive income to do less work, and don’t be like a doctor who feels unfulfilled in their work, even though they are embodying the whole “do the hard work especially when you don’t feel like it”.

    Self improvement youtubers always been a waste of time. It was the same 10 years ago, bunch of young kids at time were hooked on those vids until they got older and realized how life really is. And now 10 years later, there are these new self improvement youtubers like hamza and icecold jt, with the new younger generation being hooked on self improvement videos. Young people are just easy to convince and it’s a nice cope which feels good to think about how much better you can be in your future life once you’re like 30 and there’s a partial truth to it all that if you do put in the disciplined consistent work for years that you’ll be much better off but this gets exaggerated and makes young kids think they can achieve the impossible and get all the girls then what usually ends up happening is they go through the self improvement journey not feeling great because they can’t live up to the great image held in their vision. I’m not saying every single self improvement video is useless, once in a while there might be 1 video out of every hundreds thats more unique and insightful.

    Nearly every community has people saying the founder of the community saved their lives. Hamza bashes guys like freshandfit yet many many guys in that community will say FnF saved them. Likewise there are some people in Hamza’s community saying Hamza saved them yet others outside the community have critical things to bash on Hamza for (as seen on this page). Whether it’s the communities of Hamza, Rollo Tomassi, Freshandfit, or whoever, just know that just because some kids are telling you that you saved them that doesn’t mean what you’re preaching is absolutely right and has no negative affects on anyone else.
    People in any of these communities just aren’t thinking for themselves, and this goes even deeper to things like religion and indoctrination. The whole cult thing and cult leader thing pretty much defies the whole “having your own thinking”, the two are mutually exclusive.

    Hamza is just being polarizing and saying some controversial or offensive things and pissing people off to get more views while having a cult movement going and helping or “saving” certain people. like the rants about all video games being bad, it’s probably something that he partially believes but it’s more that he knows lots of people are going to disagree with him and therefore stay tuned into his videos.
    When he makes a video like “I don’t watch Hamza’s videos anymore” no matter what he says in that video, those people who stopped watching him are more likely to click back onto his vid and increases the likelihood of them being reinvested into his channel again.
    The dude is all about views and money, theres no in-between that he also wants everyone to become successful, those are just things he has to say to convince the audience that he can help them. You don’t need hamza to be disciplined, but hamza needs his subscribers to keep watching him otherwise his income starts to go down. He needs his viewers and thus the whole getting kids into self-improvement, the optimistic outlook he paints for his viewers, the whole story about his younger useless self to try and relate to you guys etc. If everyone stops watching him then he’ll need to find a new job, one that actually might require him to do more work for a lot less money and ofc he like most, wouldn’t want that.

    • Yeah watching him for “motivation” is pointless.

      If you’re truly disciplined you don’t lose it because the good habits become almost second nature. Watching such repetitive motivational vids will usually just hype you up for the moment then the motivation dies out. True discipline doesn’t need any push, you “do the hard work especially when you don’t feel like it”, you only lose the ‘thing’ if you relying on motivation fuel. Motivation isn’t a bad thing, it’s fine if it innately arising along the way but to actively seek out motivation is a different story. In fact you can create motivation in a better way that is by taking action to create motivation rather than watching some self-help youtube vid for it

      I understand that one may not be able to become completely disciplined right away (though also may be possible for others with the right mindset). The point was to build discipline with consistent action rather than from motivation. And sure one may then say but how about using motivation and taking action to build discipline (which is fine if done together like working out while listening to motivational video), and if one can’t seem to do anything unless they get themselves motivated first then fine whatever, but eventually it tends to not be sustainable. Here’s the thing – When everything feels comfortable, it is impossible to train self-discipline because self-discipline comes with discomfort. Anytime you wait for circumstances to improve, you’re telling yourself that you aren’t capable now.

      If one truly cared about their purpose then they wouldn’t need to ‘regain’ purpose. Truly care in the sense that it’s an underlying value to oneself rather than some mere desire that loses intensity over time. If we look at identity-based habits or certain religious people who daily pray they don’t need any motivation or regaining of purpose to keep praying each day because it’s a part of their identity to do it.

      Rather than asking what to do when you side-track or relapse, is it not better to ask how to avoid relapsing in the first place? It’s like rather than resisting temptations would it not be better to just set up environment to avoid temptations in the first place which would then ensure less mental depletion. And yes, temptations or side-tracking or relapse may be hard to avoid and eventually come up in the process but with the right disciplined mindset one can just pick themselves right back up – so discipline also comes down to cultivating the right mindset rather than needing to rely on some external video to regain purpose. This is also why some people find themselves better off going with “baby steps” to avoid that relapse in the first place and to keep the action consistent. If smaller easier action taking is what needs to be done to keep it consistent then so be it, everyone varies with how much they can keep up with.

      One should experiment for themselves. If watching motivational videos or hamza content or some 15y/o self help youtuber does help keep one on track then cool. But this is just the explanation of why it tends to not work for most or be as strong as building discipline from consistent action.

  100. Great stuff. I found this very useful and it gave me a lot of clarity on things. I have organized some of other peoples comments just to make it easier to read:

    1. Response to “it’s great advice” – The review.
    2. Response to “he saved me” – The review. Comment by Christian (potential capping). Comment by Martin (end paragraph). Comment by Pruga. Comment by Baneet (1st paragraph)
    3. Response to “he’s paying for his whole family” – Comment by Christian (potential capping).
    4. Response to “oh im just exchanging time and value for money” – The review. Comment by Christian.
    5. Response to “You just don’t understand business” and “I’m trying to make money… but aren’t you either?” – The review. Comment by Christian.
    6. Response to “It is their choice if they want to pay for it, not a scam at all.” – Comment by Christian.
    7. Response to “oh it’s about accountability” – The review.
    8. Response to “Hamza is putting in hard work to provide his program/content.” – Comment by Christian.
    9. Response to Hamza’s defenses – The review (Hamza’s responses when called out)
    10. Response to Hamza’s video “how to psychologically manipulate people (in a nice way).” – The review (Hamza’s advice can be dangerous to young people)
    11. Response to Hamza’s video “The ‘Why Self Improvement Is Ruining Your Life’ Frauds”. – The review (Hamza’s hypocrisy)
    12. Response to Hamza’s video “Red Pill YouTubers are Traumatized”. – Comment by Benzo.
    13. Response to Hamza’s video “I Scammed You. I’m Sorry”. – Comment by Christian (end paragraph). Comment by Martin.
    14. Response to Hamza’s video “I want more testosterone” – video response by More Plates More Dates. Comment by Anthony.
    15. Response to Hamza’s video “casual sex destroys your soul and nation”. – video responses by John Anthony Lifestyle and Playing With Fire.
    16. Response to Hamza’s video “Learn how to fight for survival”. – Comment by Kane (1st paragraph)
    17. Response to Hamza’s video “Happiness is NOT the goal”. – Comment by Kane (2nd and 3rd paragraph)
    18. Response to Hamza’s video “I want to be better than other men, Ego is the enemy?” – Comment by David.
    19. Response to Hamza’s video “4 Hour Work Week” – Comment by Freddy. Comment by Manny.
    20. Response to Hamza’s video “Watching Sport is a Scam” – Comment by Grbina.
    21. Response to Hamza’s video “Trying to fit in makes you ugly” – Comment by Jenju.
    22. Response to all of Hamza’s rants on video games. – Comment by Cassidy (Paragraph on flawed thoughts on video games)
    23. Response to Common defense responses from Hamza fans – Comment by Primz.
    24. Response to “he could make more money from sponsors if he wanted to” – Comment by Bannet (last paragraph)
    25. Hamza’s credentials. – The review. Comment by Cassidy (1st paragraph)
    26. Hamza’s 2nd channel. – Comment by Cassidy (second to last paragraph)
    27. Hamza’s over theorizing. – Comment by Cassidy (2nd paragraph)
    28. Hamza’s broscience. – The review
    29. Hamza’s potential insecurity – Comment by Julian (1st paragraph).
    30. Hamza’s promoting of earning passive income – Comment by Elijah.
    31. Hamza talks from own experiences rather than from facts or logic – Comment by Julian (2nd paragraph)
    32. Hamza trying to balance self help business and helping people – Comment by Bates.
    33. Toxic self-help marketing nature – The review.
    34. Hamza’s Deceptive marketing – Comment by Willpower.
    35. Response to claim that review is emotionally based – Comment by Cole.
    36. Response to “he just wants to help people” – Comment by Yusif.
    37. Response to “he changes his mind because hes still growing” – Comment by Manny (paragraph on Hamza isn’t entirely the problem though).
    38. Why do people find it hard to change their beliefs? – The review.

    39. Problem with Hamza and self help creators – Comment by Manny. Comment by POV of an adult.
    40. Self-help in itself isn’t bad. – The review.
    41. The basic message of Hamza’s is good. – The review.
    42. Not blaming Hamza. – The review.
    43. Not saying to stop watching Hamza. – The review.
    44. Advice for Hamza’s audience – The review.

  101. While Hamza did help me develop some healthy habits, I can clearly see how narrow-minded he is especially about video games. I don’t like how he always tell the opposition to shut up without providing any argument. I also see how braindead some part of his audience are, being so defensive by saying stuff like “You’re Jeffery” without providing any counterargument.

    He obviously need to be less of a “self-centred” guy that most douchestubers are, othetwise it might ruin his reputation in a long-term.

  102. Just saw the video “Red Pill YouTubers are Traumatized”.

    Hamza was quite hypocritical in this because he called RP ytbers like FreshAndFit, AMS, and FitXfearless feminine when he himself made a lot of disingenuous feminine arguments. He sounded like every other RP detractor. It’s like what Rollo said, channels like Hamza are going to grow faster and go mainstream faster because it’s holding men accountable and telling men to man up. But all that is doing is “building a better beta” like Rollo says. Not to say that Hamza doesn’t ever talk about women but for the most part he shies away from holding women accountable and revealing uncomfortable realities about women because he’s one of those guys that believe that as long as you improve yourself women are going to come correct. Which is only 70% true. You still need looks (can only maximize to an extent), game, knowledge on female nature and experience to really vet and filter a women out to see if she’s an asset or a liability. It’s not like self improvement solves everything. Channels like Hamza are for teenagers that are trying to smash the hot cheerleader in their 3rd period math class. Most young guys can’t handle RP truth, they’re too soft unfortunately.

    Hamza is just some pandering mitch who’s going through a male epiphany phase after making women his prime purpose for several years and realizing that endless casual sex isn’t all it’s cracked up to be despite TRP explicitly warning against going down that route. He’s using this phase to gather a more “mainstream” following by lightly tapping into RP truths and taking grandstands like this against more hardcore RP creators.
    Why did I come to this conclusion? Not one of his criticisms applies to what FnF preach, not a single one. They don’t preach that fathers abandon their kids, or making casual sex with multiple women your goal, or misogyny, or looking at women as adversaries or that 304s are feminine. In fact, they literally preach the exact opposite to all these points. If he felt the need to attack AMS (as clearly all his attacks are directed at his talking points and even then most of them don’t stand up), why include FreshAndFit? Clout dick riding that’s why.

    Channels like Hamza’s are popular because people like optimism and being told that they can achieve anything they put their mind to. However, the truth is humans do have limitations and you can’t achieve everything possible. But self help youtube channels and self help books would not sell well if they told the truth.

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    I feel sad but liberated at the same time…

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  104. Haters gonna hate but also fanboys gonna fanboy.
    It doesn’t take much for Hamza to have his fanboys praise him, you go into comment section of some of his videos and see that they’ll praise him for some pretty lackluster stuff. Usually the haters are blackpillers from wheat waffles’ community so it was surprising to find this page that has actual constructive criticism.

    Be aware of potential capping:
    People seem to just believe almost anything these days without proof or basis that can uphold the claims. When Hamza says he’s paying for his whole family, how do you even know that is true? How do you know his dad isn’t earning more than he claims? How do you know his brother or some other relative isn’t helping with the money?
    When some Hamza viewer says that Hamza has changed his life, how do you know that is true? How do you know he isn’t exaggerating? How do you know he isn’t just saying it to support someone he idolizes?

    About the whole “value for money” yes it has been addressed a bit in the review but let’s go deeper into that:
    (1) Firstly, what you think is value now may not seem as valuable later. When you’re younger you might pay for some course that costs about $200 but then a few years later realize “well actually now that I look back, the advice wasn’t all that great I just didn’t know any better at the time”. When you’re older you might regret a lot of purchases you made when you were younger. So even though you think you’re getting value by spending money on something and you might think at the time that you can take it with you for life, you then realize later on in life that you got it all wrong.
    (2) Paid services like coaching CAN give extra personalized advice and accountability.
    Note that I said ‘can’ and not ‘will’.
    When you pay for such services, you’re relying on the person to solve your problem or give the answer to your problem. You’re banking on them to give you a solution without you actually knowing for sure that they can actually fulfill your expectations.
    (3) Hamza: “I’m trying to make money… but aren’t you either?”
    Yes, people need to make money somehow BUT that doesn’t excuse the way someone does it. There is a difference between making money by working as a physician vs robbing banks. Wild example I know but you get the point that not all ways of making money is the same. Some
    people think you can’t get money without others losing and sure if you’re earning above
    average wage, then technically you’re taking that out of other people’s wages but there is a huge difference between that and actively trying to get your money from others when the information from your services you provide can be found elsewhere for free – that’s called ripping people off.
    (4) Someone defending Hamza: “It is their choice if they want to pay for it, not a scam at all.”
    Sure it is true that it’s ultimately their choice if they pay for something. The guy who wrote the review mentions “The consumers need to take accountability for their actions as well.”
    But note the point is that the producer isn’t necessarily wanting what is best for you. As an example just take people who sell junk food, they’re giving you food in return for money but it’s not great for your health. Of course difference is people usually know that junk food isn’t healthy when they decide to buy it and there usually isn’t places where you can get those junk food for absolutely free unlike nearly all the self help content.
    There are social statisticians, scientists, researchers, people in lab coats, literally very intelligent minds figuring out how to addict you to the news, addict you to social media, addict you to pornography, addict you to sugar, addict you to drugs etc.
    Yes you are making the choice when you indulge in such things but the point is that the producers are not always on your side.
    Yes one is making the choice when they buy a coaching program but if it’s deceptively marketed in a way to convince you that it’s absolutely life changing and then you spend your money on it but find that it’s inadequate then you would feel like you got screwed over. Of course it’s your opinion if you find it inadequate but certain things can be objectively underwhelming and therefore is trickery by the producer.

    I’m not disputing that Hamza has put in hard work to provide his program/content. My point is just because you put hard work into something that doesn’t mean you should get money from it. Here’s a wild example: If I put in hard work to achieve my ideal physique with toned 6 pack abs that doesn’t mean people should start paying me for achieving this. The context matters.
    Also, Iman Ghadzi does the whole overpriced scam courses thing and videos like “ToP fIVe StepS tO BEcOmE a MiLlioNaiRe” yet Hamza keeps praising him. Iman may have put in hard work too but that doesn’t excuse the scamming. You get the point?

    Hamza’s video opening up about scamming is just him appealing to the sympathy and appealing to forgiveness. What I do respect about it is that at least he was brave enough to even speak on the topic. Most youtubers in the same space don’t even dare to touch on the topic, most of them have fully gone to the other side whereas with hamza there still seems to be a little bit that is resisting the quackery. And so he comes across as slightly better than the others in his youtube space but still not great. The other reason he seems slightly better than those others is because he’s sly with his subtle ways.
    Example: Hamza constantly says in his vids that you probably don´t even know what im selling and thereby mentioning it in a subtle way. He also keeps mentioning that he doesn’t do much sponsors like the other youtubers and thereby making him seem much better relatively to them.

  105. Im wondering to the people of this, excluding the courses (which i get) what do you think of his content in general? do you think he preaches good advice or is it only once in a blue moon?

    • To me, his content nowadays is always “Same shit, different day” kind, as well as constantly being a bit arrogant. Unlike in the past where he seemed genuine and understanding.

    • Judging by the comments, most teens that watch him think he preaches good advice whereas most people over 20 think it’s generic obvious stuff that has been said before by others. Not everyone watches his content for the good advice though, some watch him just for the motivation to keep going, some watch him because of his memes that they find funny or entertaining, some watch him just because they were clickbaited, some watch him due to the youtube recommendations etc.
      My own opinion is that he sometimes preaches good advice and sometimes bad advice. When it’s good advice it’s always advice I’ve heard before or read somewhere before. And when it’s bad advice it’s usually when he dives into those controversial topics.

  106. Hamza has just made a video “I Scammed You. I’m Sorry” and it made me think of this review.

    He has at least owned up to this mistake and cancelled the coaching session, let’s hope from now on we see a new Hamza. I know this doesn’t excuse all the bad stuff. Doing a bunch of wrong and then being like “my bad, I’m sorry” doesn’t make full amends but it’s at least taking a bit of responsibility for the wrongdoing.

    People need to understand that when you watch videos and read books they usually influence your mind. So even if you’re not doing something out of care for others you might have convinced or deluded yourself into thinking you are and thereby the tone of voice actually comes across as genuine.

    I just have a question for the guys who say he changed their lives. How exactly did he change your life? What exactly did he say to you or do for you to change your life? I am guessing your answer is that it was an accumulation of watching multiple videos of his that jump-started the motivation to begin the journey of change.
    I was looking through the comments and one of them mentions how he could have potentially acted as a catalyst and another comment by “Baneet” mentions how the commonality of people who change their lives is just that they got disciplined to take consistent action and not necessarily watching him or some other youtuber. But people can get inspired by different things so I understand the gratitude shown by those who say he has changed their lives. Also there might be some over-hyping as when you’re an incel or loser it doesn’t take much to change your life to be better comparatively speaking.

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    Awesome blog, much needed. I can’t beleive hes similar to the quacks we often Lalugh about and i was about to buy that course. This is how one can be hooked up on YouTube

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  108. You see the same defense responses from Hamza fans all the time:
    Hamza gives bad advice – “well you can’t be right all the time”
    Hamza says something wrong – “no one is perfect though”
    Hamza points out flaws of other youtubers – “hamza is so unique and must be different to those other youtubers because he pointed out some flaws of theirs”
    Hamza doesn’t do something that other youtubers do – “omg look hamza doesn’t use sponsors in his vids he’s so real omgggg” (even though he still makes plenty of money from the youtube stuff)
    Hamza opens up about something – “omg hamza is so brave for opening up about this”
    Hamza changes his opinions on a topic – “hamza is still learning and growing with us”
    Everything wrong with hamza – “but hamza has helped some people change their lives, he genuinely cares about young kids!!!”

    The defenses are nearly always strawman or red herrings or some other logical fallacy.

    Check out an old hamza video “Self Improvement YouTubers Dilemma (How to die whilst you’re still alive)” which has under 10k views as of now.
    It seems he was more genuine about helping others back then with initially giving free coaching sessions before charging crazy prices. Everything he spoke against in that video he has now become, money changes people. Even in the comment section, he handles himself well against comments like asking how will you make enough money to get by, another comment said money is crucial and hamza gave a decent response that “It’s necessary but thinking it’ll make your life amazing is silly. That’s the advertisements and social media comparisons talking, not a human”. He mentions in the old video if money is your goal you live a sub-optimal life, and now more recently on his unfiltered channel he admits that he has become more focused on money as a goal. The current Hamza will probably excuse himself with “oh you need to experience wealth first before you get a better understanding of it and in my old video I was talking without the experience of wealth”.

    From what I can tell, it’s mostly 2nd generation ethnic children who watch him, maybe they can relate more to him. Hamza has also said his videos are now more for those kids with low attention span that are used to watching short tiktok videos, that makes it more understandable because let’s say as an example – if a child has some addiction and attention problems then they’re less likely to want to read Gabor Mate’s “in the realm of hungry ghosts” or Anna Lembke’s “dopamine nation” so having Hamza summarize such books and add some storytelling with memes that those kids find funny and entertaining then they’re more likely to sit through it and get the basic message even if it’s not explained as clear as it otherwise could be. So this is where Hamza may come in to help, as he refers to them as the “spergs” which are the ones that would benefit most from his content. Unfortunately, at the same time those guys are also the weak, minded guys that are easy for such self improvement channels to prey on. And now that hamza has changed to caring less about helping others what this leads to is his channel now just preys on weak, minded guys and usually pushes “Yo just NoFap, lift, hard work, get money, stop looking at girls and girls will come to you” because those viewers just want a quick fix that can help them in their life.

  109. Hamza is trying to convince himself that he’s doing good.
    He has deluded himself and it’s probably partly due to him focusing just on the positive feedback that a select group of his viewers give him. Those select group of “he has changed my life” which is anecdotal and unfalsifiable unless you video documented your progress and even then there’s no way of distinguishing the ratio between those who have been positively impacted and those negatively impacted and those who remained neutral (i’d imagine most are in this neutral not impacted group). The positive feedback feeds his ego and he has convinced himself certain ideologies about ego itself and how he uses it to compete with others or whatever. He has also mentioned that he doesnt take any criticism because he is doing ‘good’ for the people. He’s more focused on coming across as convincing to grow his cult rather than for the value-giving itself, he has said it himself before that speaking with conviction is something he hones in on, also you can see from his body language, where he pauses for a while and just stares at the camera as if he has just said something really profound. A good general rule is that anyone profiting from self improvement inherently cannot be trusted at all, they may start off with good intentions but eventually their only allegiance is to their livelihood and their ego.

    You can see multiple points made against him but there seems to be just one point in his favor. That one point in his favor is “his videos have helped some people” and like the review points out even the largest quacks have helped some people. It doesn’t matter if you helped a certain group of people when you’re being a charlatan, taking advantage of others that haven’t received any good in return. His cult follows a bandwagon fallacy. This one point in his favor is just a Hasty Generalization, based on self-proclaimed examples rather than substantial proof. Even if those self-proclaimed examples are true, that’s cool but it doesn’t change the snake oil salesman attitude.
    “some of his advice is good” is not a valid argument because it’s 100% opinion-based. Most of his “good” advice is just stuff that has already been said before by others. This is what happens in the self-help communities, most things are just repeated and reworded by others. Take 1stman for example, his main ideology is how we peak somewhere in our 30s and that we should spend our younger years focused on building ourselves with discipline and hard work instead of focusing on getting women which will come later in life when we become high value man. This idea of males reaching attractive peak later than women has been said decades before, Rollo Tomassi (the supposed father of the red pill) had been saying it long ago. You will see the same defense responses over and over again from those young hardcore supporters of his. “you’re jeffrey”, “you feel threatened by his content”, “you are jealous he’s doing better than you”, “you are probably not doing much with your life that’s why you hating”, “he tells the truth and it makes you feel insecure that’s why you don’t like it”. None of these responses actually making any rational argument but just ad hominem fallacies.

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    Hamza has a 3rd class psychology degree from a shitty University and has had one average paying job, and has spent the last 2 years making more money by making mostly theoretical YouTube videos promoting an “anti-degenerate” lifestyle. As for what to show about himself, he’s in decent shape but that’s about it and he uses that as to why you should trust him over other self-improvement youtubers to give you advice on how to improve yourself.

    Hamza theorizes way too much but that’s what self-improvement content creators need to do to keep their business going, to keep the content going, to keep the views coming in.
    There’s also some overexaggeration with the whole “masculinity is under attack” like yeah it’s partially true to an extent but likely no where near as bad as some of these people in manosphere make it out to be. He also constantly slates other men and calls those who disagree with him as “Jeffrey” or some other cringy shit. Not everyone wants to be a super rich entrepreneur. Some people want to be a doctor. Some people want to be bricklayers. Some people are on the very low end of the cognitive spectrum and can only be a janitor. If they’re at peace with their lives then it shouldn’t be a problem, why does it matter to him?
    His content is padded out and very repetitive which is common for self help youtubers that run out of topics to talk about so continue talking about the same thing reworded several times.

    His flawed thoughts on video games:
    He shames people for having certain hobbies like having dream cars, watching sports, watching rick and morty or whatever or playing videos. He seems to continuously berate people that play video games too. He thinks that video games will send you into despair and degeneracy. He thinks that video games are “beta” and women will shame you for playing them. First of all, who cares what women or anyone has to say about your hobbies. If they’re not supportive go find one who is. Secondly, if you give up your hobbies, passions and interests to appease women, that’s ironically more “beta” than anything. Moreover, he makes assumptions against playing videos that when people plan to play for an hour they end up playing for several hours, and that may be true for some (mostly in the case of those with addictions) but he acts like it’s true for everyone and that anyone who says they can control themselves to play for an hour is lying. People who make the assumption that you can’t just restrict self to do something fun for just 1 hour are likely just speaking from their own experience because they probably lacked the impulse control/self-control/discipline to do so. Cold turkey works for some, and sometimes moderation works for others. Then you get both ends of the stick saying that only their method works and I guess Hamza falls into the cold turkey category. I found for me it even depends on the activities, like cold turkey method worked better for noporn while moderation worked better for watching tv or playing games. Also would add that the neuroscience on video games is pretty new but so far showing when it comes to video games, it also depends on the game. Different games have different update speeds, different genres, novelty aspects, and therefore have different dopamine release levels. FPS games are a lot different to 3D platform games or logic puzzle games, so to just generalize them all into the same box as “bad” is very flawed.

    Thoughts on his 2nd channel:
    He mostly wants people to check out his slightly better second channel where he can develop his cult further. His second channel is where he gives more of his viewpoints on controversial topics, such as how the West is scheduled for deterioration over time, how the sexual market place is getting more cutthroat and women are becoming more hypergamous, and he slowly slips in his conservative, dangerously Red Pilled ideologies (despite supposedly claiming that he isn’t a Red Pill man several times).

    “no one’s perfect”
    I hear this a lot from people defending him. Ok, what does that have anything to do with the presented case against his flaws and his content? Saying no one’s perfect doesn’t counter the points made against him nor does it act as a get-out-of-jail-for-free card to excuse all the negatives.

    + PROS: Possibly helped a select group of young people improve their lives (anecdotal claims, not actually proven yet)
    - CONS: Theorizes way too much. Overexaggerates instead of being brutally honest. Slates others and uses cringy meme retorts instead of robust counterpoints. Padded out and very repetitive content. Flawed thoughts (including but not limited to - human understanding, women, hobbies, video games, controversial topics).
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    • Another problem with him is misinformation and misrepresentation or misinterpretation. He made a video about Testosterone and how it’s gone down on average according to stats and while it’s not at all bad for a man to care about his testosterone levels, he completely exaggerated the problem. There’s even a video from a pretty well-known fitness channel who criticizes him and he even commented on it but guess what? He didn’t acknowledge the criticism at all. Neither did his fans, they were all like, “Omg I am so happy that he is getting the recognition that he deserves” well, they aren’t wrong. He does deserve to be known as someone who misleads people many times on different occasions. People praise him for his basic advice and ignore his flaws.

      Another example of Misinformation, or actually misrepresentation, is his video,”Reclaim your Male aggression”. He talks about how child abuse leads to kids not expressing themselves or venting about their problems to their parents out of fear of getting beaten up. Plus, problems of bullying at school and how you need to stand up and fight back because no one is going to help you.
      Now as you might have guessed, I have some problems with that video. First of all, he describes this problem as result of a “feminized” society. WHAT? Do I even need to explain the problem? He has shown from time to time that his understanding of feminity is messed up. In his latest video,”Red pill youtubers are traumatized”, he says these youtubers are feminine because they are loud and ARROGANT. Apparently arrogance is a feminine trait. Feminine nature is being compassionate, emotional, expressive, sensitive etc. If society was truly feminized, this problem actually would not happen much. In fact, he defines this problem as a modern world problem but really this is something that has been going on for ages. It’s a myth and a stereotype which is part of tradition that boys shouldn’t show their emotions. “Boys don’t cry” is not something that girls say, atleast not the majority, but mostly other men say this to men. In fact, other people like him online who also keep talking about “masculinity being under attack” say that men should become more traditional and shit on men who express themselves in non-traditional or feminine ways. The problem that he is talking about is caused by people who hold the same belief as him and he puts the blame on the ones who criticize them and actually have no problem with men expressing themselves. He is shown a little bit that he doesn’t like feminism but it’s the good, not radical, feminists who say that that men shouldn’t be called be weak or “pussies” (a term Hamza uses a lot) for expressing their emotions.

      Second issue, he tells teenagers to fight back rather than tell the teacher because the teachers aren’t going to help and when other kids learn that you told the authorities, they will bully you more. Now it sounds quite reasonable except one issue. Kids don’t fight back also out of FEAR of getting punished themselves. It has been proven before that many times when a kid fights back against someone harassing them, the teachers end up punishing them with the bully and sometimes not even the bully.

      He misinforms, misinterprets or misrepresents things. That is actually quite common in self-help channels that it’s either just general good advice or straight-up bullshit. The only difference is that Hamza’s general demographic is way younger than most self-help youtubers which is really dangerous.

    • Response to Hamza unfiltered video “You don’t realise how addicted you are”.

      Hamza goes against the terrible cases made in favor of video games (like someone saying they learned more from video games than reading books) instead of refuting the decent points in favor of it. The first 15 minutes or so of the video is just him giving personal opinions without any actual reasoning given.

      Hamza makes the claim that people have never actually quit video games for enough time to have a decent view on both sides. Okay well, (1) I actually have quit video games for several years then added them back into my life in restricted time schedules and I feel more satisfied with life now than during the years without them.
      (2) You might say what I’ve just said is an anecdotal claim, well so is what Hamza says. You can tell when someone claims they workout whether it’s true or not because of visual evidence, but for unfalsifiable claims such as quitting video games it’s almost impossible to tell and therefore the whole point of take advice from someone who has quit becomes moot.

      Hamza says these guys don’t know what productivity means but then doesn’t actually give an actual explanation for what he thinks it means. Searches will give you different answers, so it’s your own definition of what you mean by productive in the context you’re using it. So we need an actual explanation from him what exactly being productive is because all he said is “being a productive is having a deep conversation with your friend in real life or on a video call” which is just an example, not actually what he means by it. Dude needs to elaborate what exactly he means by being productive.
      He talks about the self-improvement journey as “this shit is fun”. Ok yeah I found it fun on some days too, but I know some other guys who been doing self improvement for years and they say the fun goes away for them. So you can’t just think it’s the same for everyone.
      He makes the excuse that he’s not good at making arguments because it’s trauma-related or something. But If you truly believed in whatever point it is then why is it that hard to make a good case for your viewpoint? You’re not even typing so you don’t need to try and articulate your words properly, all you need to do is just let the words flow out your mouth and be able to convey what you mean.

      He makes the comparison between video games and eating junk food or drinking alcohol or watching porn. But video games is very different to these things, the similarity is there for certain aspects like dopamine release for certain games with addictive nature, but that doesn’t mean all video games are bad or that they’re just like watching porn or drinking alcohol. There is a totally different brain chemistry going on.
      “If you have to ask what’s wrong with X and then give excuses why it’s not that bad. It’s probably pretty bad.” I don’t know how he came up with this logic, you can literally replace anything with X, like if you ask what’s wrong with exercise and give reasons why it’s not bad, that doesn’t mean exercise is pretty bad lol.

      Hamza brings up the point of “addictive personality” and makes a counter to that, but he doesn’t bring up the point that some games don’t have the same addictive nature to them and when he says “video games are made to be addictive” it sounds like he’s talking about certain types of video games like those shooting games and league of legend type games, games that have an infinite aspect to them and never end, games that you can multiplayer with, which I guess are the kind of games that most teens play so I get it and perhaps what most children think of when they hear “video games” but he should clarify on that because there are other video games like puzzle games that are completely different and don’t have anywhere near the same addictive nature to them.

    • the shit uni he went to is Manchester Metropolitan University. He lives in Warrington.

      Anyway, you made some good points about the video games stuff, I would add that it depends on the person’s brain and age and such. because how much you can self control is a lot to do with prefrontal cortex activity and so for a lot of these younger guys like hamza and hamza viewers their pfc isn’t fully developed just based on their age alone, since pfc doesn’t fully develop until around age 25 and for guys it tends to even be a couple years later than that. and thats just age, there are other factors that can affect pfc activity like poor sleep will negatively affect it and end up with worse self control too

  111. Derek (More Plates More Dates) just made a video where he dismantles some of the stuff Hamza says about testosterone and mentions how something he said is dangerous to say which adds to the section “Hamza’s advice can be dangerous to young people”.
    You can tell from the comment section, that a lot of hamza viewers were happy with him just being mentioned, with comments such as “so happy he’s getting the recognition, he deserves it!” and that just points towards how much more attachment to the content creator there is rather than the content itself. Of course his viewers will defend him being dismantled as “self improvement is all about learning, hamza will learn from what derek said” which is fine but it just goes to show that he’s not mature enough in his thoughts, wisdom, experiences to be giving out decent viewpoints on certain topics.

    Apparently he has reduced his coaching calls to $90 or he doesn’t do them anymore, I don’t know the full story but he has changed/removed those overpriced mentoring stuff that was previously on his site which means he knows what he was doing was quackery or he changed it to seem more reasonable. Whatever the case, at least he has changed those ridiculous prices.

    I saw a comment saying not everything on his channel should be taken literally which is pretty ironic since hamza takes a lot of stuff others have said literally, such as “not caring what others think” he took that literally.
    Hamza has just got lucky and worked the algo well, he’s just the new hot shit in the self improvement youtube space. UK youtubers in the manosphere just seem to be growing in popularity at this time, i.e. Hamza, 1stman, Wheat Waffles.
    The status quo can form a sort of herd mentality where they just support some guy even if he’s not great, you see it in politics all the time. It’s not really any issue with hamza (yet) since he isn’t supporting any kind of evil movement (yet) and his cult members will likely just grow out of their phase then being replaced with younger kids reaching their teen years, the cycle repeats until hamza’s popularity dies out like other previous yt channels have.

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    Hamza in most of his videos is wearing his hoodie up indoors while he has a deformed ear.
    What are the chances? Sure he could just like wearing his hoodie up.
    Maybe it’s because he feels the videos where he wears the hoodie up do better in terms of views vs the videos where he doesn’t wear it up. (Although unlikely since he rarely doesn’t wear it up so it would be a low sample size comparison)

    It just screams insecurity and there isn’t anything fundamentally wrong with being insecure but if you’re going to be teaching young guys to be more confident, masculine and whatnot then you should really sort out your own insecurities first. And sure I might be jumping to conclusions but the fact that he has a deformed ear and just happens to wear his hoodie up in most of his videos is very unlikely to be a coincidence.
    “But but there are videos where he doesn’t wear his hoodie up”, “he has instagram pics where he shows it” yeah okay so? If he always had his hoodie up in every video then it would make it too obvious that he was insecure and so it’d be smarter to hide the insecurity by having a few videos where he shows the deformed ear. If you look at the ratio it’s like 99% of his videos are him with his hoodie up.

    I’m not a fan of John Anthony lifestyle but he brought up some good points against Hamza in his video on him (ignoring the trash talking). Hamza talks way too much from an anecdotal viewpoint and probably never actually lived a casual sex lifestyle but rather he barely got any results with women and hence his videos against it and all his videos on how the average man isn’t as attractive anymore and how the sexual market place is all messed up now. And I’m not even saying he’s wrong on some of these but his continual obsession over it is probably due to the fact that he never actual gets any results like John Anthony puts it. It has been almost a week since John dropped that video and Hamza most likely has seen it and John has a big enough of following for Hamza to notice and respond but he chooses not to. Others like Andrew Tate and Bulldog mindset have noted and had long discussions with John Anthony, while Hamza has had long discussions with guys that have smaller followings such as Wheat Waffles. So why is Hamza not responding to John Anthony? most likely because he doesn’t know how to respond to the legit points made by John Anthony lifestyle. But if you ask Hamza he’ll probably just try to justify it with how he doesn’t want to give him attention and that he’s just looking for attention.

    + PROS: Contributed to a very small percentage of his viewers changing a few things to slightly improve their degenerate lifestyles
    - CONS: Comes across as insecure about his deformed ear and so doesn't have much of the assurance to talk about things he promotes on his channel such as confidence and being more of a masculine man. He's dodging responding to John Anthony Lifestyle's legit points amid the trash talk.
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    I also think the same

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    ive been watching his content for ages now and always knew that the course wouldnt really be worth it, and i have been making efforts to self improve. a major issue i see with hamzas content is that he makes so many videos it can be distracting and somewhat manipulative. Roped into watching video after video filled with watered down information, distracting the jefferies from their actual goal. His young age and change of opinions can also be annoying as he has several videos which contradict eachother.

    in conclusion he is very good if u take action and arent a jeffery

    + PROS: good free content inspires many
    - CONS: too much watered down content course isnt worth it perception is only based on what we see of him online somewhat inexperienced
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    • hey this is me in the future and i can now say hamza has deteriorated so badly he is not worth watching anymore

    • says he’s somewhat inexperienced but also gives him 4.5/5 rating for experience. lol even if you didn’t say you’ve been watching his content for ages now it would still be evident that you do just from that. You make a good point about the cons but for the pros like the article notes, the quality of the free content and whether it inspires people really comes down to individuals and their subjective perception of it. I disagree with the conclusion, if you already take consistent action then you don’t really need to waste your time watching his videos telling you to do what you’re already doing. Those videos would actually be more beneficial to the so-called “jeffries” that need a push to take action (hamza said himself his main channel videos are aimed at those with low attention spans, which is why they’re mostly ~5 mins vids now) but problem is motivation from such videos is often short-lived, people are inspired to take action more during times like after watching a motivational video or a podcast or when the new year begins and then a month later that inspiration dies out and they stop taking action.

      • very good points. i feel his main channel is very sucky and isnt making anyones lives much better. his unfiltered channel is very informative and entertaining. on the experience thing, he is somewhat inexperienced on some topics, some videos i dont agree with, but overall his life and views are documented on youtube so we grow with him

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    I live in the same neighbourhood as the guy, only recently found out he has a youtube channel. If you believe me you can take my word for it, here is what I seen from my judgment he is in fairly good shape, and he looks like a regular middle class person (he could be wealthy but I highly doubt). I’ve only skimmed through this page and if I were to guess I would say this online self-help stuff with youtube and courses is his only source of income which is probably why he continues with frequent youtube uploads and has steep prices for courses.

    I have only seen a few of his videos and from that it really made me realize, how you see a guy be online is mostly never going to be an accurate representation of how they are in real life. That sometimes includes the good and bad, like in this case he isn’t as confident but also not as arrogant. He’s pretty much just your average regular guy other than being more consistent with the gym than most are. It’s as if he’s a completely different person when the camera switches on.

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    Hamza made a video on learn to fight for survival. He says “I’ve had guys try to stab me because they thought I was a terrorist”. He probably just made up the story to make the video more entertaining to his viewers, but anyway, 99% of people won’t encounter those situations unless they do or say something to instigate it. It’s not cavemen times where we have to continuously look out for survival anymore. Most of our problems nowadays are diseases of abundance (food, sugar, entertainment, pleasure etc.) and mental health. If you’re regularly anxious about someone going to irrationally randomly attack you on the streets for no reason, then that’s a mental problem and signs of an overactive amygdala. The notion that you should do something just in case that this very unlikely event may occur isn’t a great approach, should you also leave the house less so you’re less likely to get into those unlikely violent situations? Learning to fight can be great for other reasons such as a hobby or as exercise or if it does make you more confident then go for it, but it’s really not an important needed thing to do. Also telling young kids stories of being attacked for no good reason might instil some anxiety/fear in their them when reality is the chance you’re going to be attacked for no good reason is very very very low.

    He also did a video on happiness from the unfiltered channel. He doesn’t seem to realize that book “Almanack of Naval Ravikant” isn’t actually written by him, it’s by Eric Jorgenson who has just put together a bunch of Naval’s sayings without all being in proper context. If you seen the Joe Rogan podcast that Naval was on you’ll see that he actually says let’s get people wealthy/successful first then get them happy. Naval also explains in his own podcast video titled “Happiness” how people have different meanings for happiness and he also goes into explaining the whole desire concept with peace vs drive and how it’s actually possible to have both. Hamza sometimes does talks about things or people without doing much research into the actual teachings of them.

    Hamza throws passive attacks at Naval. He says “this is not a masculine man, this is not a strong man, he’s a skinny little asian guy”. Firstly, you don’t know him personally, you haven’t seen him in a fight, for all we know he could be a great fighter. You’ve just assumed things based on his physical appearance, and sure it’s fine to think a skinny smart guy may not be good at fighting but to say it for sure and say he’s not masculine is an assumptive attack on character. On top of that the dude is nearly 50 and most older people generally aren’t physically as strong as younger adults. We also haven’t seen any videos of Hamza fight, just some random kickboxing training cut footages. And sure I get that not every street fight has a person who pulls out their phone to record it, I’m not saying he’s lying for sure, I’m saying we can’t take his word on it. At least if you had some amateur fight record then we could take you more serious on this subject, but Hamza is trying to act like he’s some Andrew Tate esque guy without the toxicity. It seems like he’s heavily influenced by Tate and has this idea in his head where he wants to be some big macho tough guy.

    + PROS: Encourages people to do some good lifestyle activities.
    - CONS: Attacks people's characters who have done nothing to deserve it. Attacks other people's teachings without actually knowing enough of the context. Says some irrational stuff which can make young children feel scared or anxious. Still has some of that toxic masculinity ideas similar to those red pill traumatized youtubers he has spoke about.
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    I get the feeling from him there’s 2 sides of him battling each other, one being a more genuine guy and the other being more of a money-hungry quack. A few times the more genuine side of him might overpower the other side which is why every once in a while he might say something like don’t watch his short main channel videos, or it might be why he doesn’t promote more sponsors or his courses as much even though he sells them at such high prices, it might be why in some rare occasions he admits that he’s more money oriented than helping others.

    He’s trying to fuse them together and convince himself that you can do both.
    As explained in the article as the typical justification given by self-help content creators, they may often try to convince themselves by thinking they’re exchanging time, effort and value for money. The emotional gain he gets from some fans saying he helped them probably also fuels this belief that he can do both. Him occasionally opening up and admitting some things also makes him appear more genuine and probably further fuels this belief. Even saying you should stop wasting time on youtube while you make money from it doesn’t necessarily make you genuine, it is like telling a crackhead that crack is bad for your health while selling it. The producer knows that the consumer is hooked by crack/youtube so honesty will not reduce their earnings and they will seem more genuine, double win for them. He may even say to stop watching his own main channel videos which are predominantly short videos now but he goes on to say you should watch podcasts and longer vids stuff like that, which he makes too and will actually make him even more money since those longer videos will earn him a lot more than his 5 minute videos.

    It’s true that you can help others and get paid for it, example – Doctors.
    BUT in the realm of the self-help universe that isn’t such the case, if you really wanted to fully help others then everything would be free and you wouldn’t be putting out videos almost every other day to bombard people with too much info that they can’t fully take in. Also factor in that self-help is really about one helping themselves that’s why it’s called SELF-help, and factor in that you can get nearly everything they say easily for free online with just a little bit of searching, along with that there is a threshold point for input vs output when it comes to self-help knowledge and applying action to it.

    There’s a lot of overindulging in self-help content, people are obsessed with optimization now and they’re overthinking way too much. Self-help has become the new TV show, whether that’s those short videos or longer vids or podcasts or books, they all mostly just give you motivation, inspiration and hope but only action changes your life. The argument in favor of the podcasts and books is that they may hold you in a state of mind of inspiration for longer and so have more of an effect on you to take action but rarely do you actually hear/read any new highly profound wisdom which truly changes people to take action. People read and read and listen to podcast and self-help videos, on and on, but the thing that they neglect to do is actually put into practice what they’re learning. It’s fine if you consume it in a scheduled common-sense limited time period of the day to help keep yourself in check or to fuel a new mindset but really most of it comes down to you taking action on things you already know you should do. To summarize what self-help really comes down to is:
    (1) Stop overthinking and Take consistent action on the basic things you know you should do.
    (2) Have a schedule limited time period (of the day/week) to seek and learn new useful information

    + PROS: - Occasionally genuine
    - CONS: - Close-minded. He tries to convince himself things he wants to believe instead of just being open and seeing things for the way they actually are. - He still lacks clarity in his own self and beliefs
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    He’s a 24 year old guy with a decent body, and has practical knowledge on living a healthy lifestyle, but there is NOTHING he can tell you that will justify paying $999 or even $20 for a matter of fact.

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    Couple of guys say they watched Hamza vids and it improved their lives. It was the opposite case for me and some others, I used to binge his videos for over a year and it was only when I stopped watching him and started taking the basic actions (things that I already knew I should do) that my life improved and I know a bunch of others who share this experience. So it doesn’t really matter whether you watch him or don’t watch him, the commonality for people whose lives improved was that they took consistent action and the commonality for people who remained the same was that they didn’t take enough action. Simple.
    Hamza’s advice can be good ONLY IF people put to use the basic actions (ie. good diet, good sleep, exercise, meditate, consistency etc.) and ignore the rest of the stuff he says (including but not limited to – broscience, contrarian advice etc.). If you do watch him, his videos should basically serve as motivation and to keep yourself in check to keep up with the discipline.

    I saw the screenshots in the “Hamza’s response when called out” section and thought it was fake, had to go to the 1stman server to find out it’s actually real. The fact that Hamza only responds once and doesn’t counter the responses made back and instead just leaves the server makes it clear that he’s in the wrong. I’ve also seen Hamza or his mods ban a few people in his server for bringing up valid stuff against what he preaches, like there was this one guy who got kicked out because he made a meme video of showing Hamza talk about how the party lifestyle is bad and then cuts to his instagram story from a few days ago showing him ironically partying in clubs.
    You’ll often hear people like Hamza and other self improvement youtubers make unfalsifiable claims about them making a lot more money now. Then you see their background is just some casual place or in Hamza’s case it’s his parents house. And look, anyone can make a defense for their case, like “not all rich people will show that they’re rich” or with Hamza he claims it’s because he wants to look after his family. If you were actually wealthy I doubt you’d still be making self-help videos (and of course I already know how they’d reply to this, that they’re doing it to help young men or because they enjoy providing “good content”). That’s why it doesn’t really matter what you claim, the fact is that it’s an unfalsifiable claim but they only mention it to portray some superior image to their viewers.

    If Hamza legitimately has people’s best interest at heart then he should make an unfiltered video addressing these problems with the self-help world:
    -Overload of information + analysis paralysis
    -Same content repeatedly said by different people
    -All the stuff mentioned about toxic and deceptive marketing
    -The comments on this page detailing self help content issues
    -A response to all the points made in the article

    So far, I have only seen a small response to the marketing stuff about how he could make money if he wanted to by advertising and promoting himself more. While it’s true he could add sponsors and promote more, that doesn’t really negate the whole point. What he’s doing is essentially the same as others who give free “value” to try and subconsciously influence you to get into their frame. If anyone wants to see another example of this, just check out the site endmyopia where the guy gives a bunch of information on vision for free and says you don’t have to pay him anything but then includes a bunch of paid courses to tempt people into thinking there’s more they can know that they’re unaware of.

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    • “You’ll often hear people like Hamza and other self improvement youtubers make unfalsifiable claims about them making a lot more money now. ”

      lol this is so true, I just clicked on his recent video titled “The things you own end up owning you” im only a few minutes into the video and he’s already talking about how he made 100k in a year. As soon as I heard that, I remembered this comment, quit the video and realized all this time I’ve been watching Hamza and blindly believing everything he claims when it’s likely mostly an act.

  120. It would be cool to see Hamza do a podcast/discussion/debate with someone on this whole topic of problem with self help content creators. And when you choose someone, don’t just make it some hater who can’t argue well but make it someone who gives good constructive criticism. Maybe the reason he doesn’t do this is because he deep down knows he’d lose such a debate and that’s why he chooses to only debate on topics that he feels confident he’d win against such as with Wheat Waffles and Blackpill.

    The reason for why a debate would be good is because you get to hear both sides views, whereas in just your lone videos you can just say something and there is no one to argue a good point against it. For instance, you made a video about using ego of being better than other men and you even mention that Ryan Holiday book but you don’t address the counterpoint that in the book he says using ego as a fuel to get better is just temporary relief that will gets you depleted after using it for long time. If there was someone else to debate with they could bring it up and could mention other counterpoints such as those by Jordan Peterson who goes into explaining why competing with your former self is a much better metric. A lot of the views you changed could’ve been brought up much sooner in such a debate, like a lot of the stuff mentioned on this page. Even with your debate with Wheat Waffles both of you seemed to understand more afterwards and seemed to have influenced each others beliefs a bit. So yeah, do a debate with someone on the topic of the problem with the self help content world where you debate all the valid points brought up not just in the article here but also all the valid points brought up in the comment section of this article.

  121. I just watched his most recent unfiltered channel video where he talks about being semi-retired at 24 and depressed. It’s either a coincidence or he reads this page since every time some semi-famous adviser from the internet is mentioned, Hamza then ends up saying he has been watching that person now. Naval Ravikant and Andrew Tate were both mentioned in his most recent video and were also mentioned way before here in the article or comments. Whatever the case, a lot of these self help youtubers (Andrew Kirby, Nathaniel Drew etc.) say they watch Naval and then just repeat stuff he has said. I’d say if you’re looking for actual value then just watch people like Naval instead of the youtubers that occasionally repeat what he says. If you want some entertainment then maybe Hamza or some other youtuber will suit you more and that’s probably why kids watch him more since he brings in the memes about jeffrey adonis which they may find funny/entertaining.

    You can see in one of the comments below that someone brings up points against Hamza’s 4hr work week video, where they bring up the point that “There can just as well be someone who’s living this 4hr work week and feeling unfulfilled.” And now Hamza in his latest unfiltered channel video has just admitted to feeling that exact scenario.
    I like to watch his Unfiltered channel not for value but just to see the journey as it’s pretty similar to mine the way his opinions on certain things change. I basically had some of the same change in views but just a few years earlier than him (I’m also a few years older than him), he still has some other views that I used to have which then changed later (like the way he thinks about being more masculine and stuff andrew tate said) – you can be more masculine without acting in that way but I won’t dive too much into that topic as I’m interested to see if Hamza will change views on that topic too.

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    Hamza just compared watching sports to porn. This is how usual generic okay advice can become dangerous advice, as kids may start to feel bad for watching sports now. I think what he was trying to convey was questioning the net-gain you get from the religious attachment to sports. He really needs to articulate himself a lot better.
    Hamza’s associated youtube friend 1stman, did much better explaining it in his video “Watching Sport is a Scam”. Hamza’s video on this was a shorts video so he doesn’t have as much time to explain the point that he’s trying to make, but that explanation is crucial when your audience is mostly young teens who will take nearly everything literally especially when there’s no further context. If he sees this post then he should make a new longer video on this topic clarifying what he meant or just tell people to check out that 1stman video on it which is probably where he got the idea from.

    Hamza also seems to have an unhealthy obsession on how men can be seen as attractive to women (this is usually a teenage/early 20s guys phase and people usually grow out of it after around 25 or 30 as they start to settle down, so maybe in a few years we’ll see Hamza change since he still hasn’t reached this age in life). He’s not the only one with this obsession, with other communities like the manosphere, redpill or blackpill, channels like fresh and fit etc. and considering sex has innate circuits due to whatever evolutionary purposes, it’s not much of a surprise that nearly all of us have desires regarding this topic. But what can be problematic is compulsive theorizing on the topic, which is fine if that’s something you’re studying as a part of your craft like an evolutionary psychologist or social psychologist or sociologist or biologist or along those lines. However, an ordinary person obsessed with all the theories on this DUE TO ATTACHMENT of actually wanting some huge sexual gain out of it all – that’s where the unhealthy attachment comes in.

    Hamza has recently opened up on his unfiltered channel about how his father used to physically abuse him and the rest of his family, he also opened up about how his brother would sexually abuse him when he was a young child. He tried to defend their disgusting actions which is probably just a sign of him suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Hamza is traumatized and getting therapy for this which is good progress for him but he doesn’t really seem like he’s in a good place to give good advice on broader topics yet. His channel is okay for kids when the advice is just about things like discipline, consistency, momentum etc. but when he starts to dive into other areas of life that’s when what he says can become controversial.

    + PROS: - Okay general advice for kids about improving yourself - Gives okay summaries on some self-help books
    - CONS: - No new advice - Nothing profound said - Some questionable stuff said when he tries to explore into giving more unique advice - Unhealthy obsession with the idea of sexual value
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    • He knows all those videos on discussing attraction theory and sexual market value is what all the horny teenagers want to watch. And the Nofap videos nearly always get lots of views because those teens have constant strong sexual urges which they find difficult to conquer.

  123. hamza my homie

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    When I first saw this article a month ago I didn’t even read it and I just immediately hated it.

    Now after reading through it all with an open mind and reading all the comments here, especially the comments by “COLE”, “WILLPOWER”, “POV OF AN ADULT” and “MANNY” I realize not just the problems with Hamza but the problem with the whole self improvement community (NOT self improvement itself).

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    These guys will make videos on telling you to get passive income while their passive income comes from kids watching their youtube vids and buying their courses. It’s like those finance gurus preaching about crypto, when they didn’t get rich from it but made their money selling courses for people to learn about crypto.

    No amount of hand gesturing and up-close camera videoing is going to actually make the content’s value any better.
    Only thing I like about him is that he seems more of a normal guy (even though he still tries to portray this cool guy on the internet) than others in the same field as him.

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    He has said it himself that he’s just a dumbass with a camera.
    I wouldn’t say he’s a dumbass though but he isn’t as smart as most people think he is, he is perhaps slightly wiser than your average teenager. And when you’re even slightly wiser than the average and you blow up on youtube, you can make the average teenager follow the way you view things without much thought resistance.

    Luckily most of the time his advice isn’t bad it’s just ideas he has gotten from self help books. So this can be good for a lot of kids because there isn’t really any other popular self help youtuber that specifically has a target audience of young teens. The other well known self help youtubers seem to cater more towards people near their own age (mostly people in their early/mid 20s).

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    Trust – Very little reason to trust this guy. He made a video saying “Trying to fit in makes you ugly” where he bashes going to clubs and then you look at his instagram it shows him recently doing what he preaches against.
    Experience – He’s just some guy in his 20s who is still figuring out life for himself, he doesn’t have much life experience.
    Reputation – His reputation is not great when he keeps breaking up and going back to the same girl. Also making a video on manipulating women even if you say it’s in a nice way it is still going to lower your reputation.
    Customer Service – I know some people who didn’t get their money back from his coaching when they weren’t pleased with it. Although it seems he has stopped doing these paid coachings.

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    If you see most of the comments that point out his negatives they do so with constructive criticism.
    If you see most of the comments supporting him you see they are either insults at the guy who wrote the article or they are just saying “It’s good advice”.
    That alone tells a lot.

    I personally haven’t got any value of his content

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    stfu cunt

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    • “There’s also a high chance that Hamza’s fans will start calling me names instead of trying to understand the point”

      Proving OP right lol

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      Adonis tells haters to stfu and calls them a cunt. Adonis is based as fuck.

      • jeffreyyyyyyyy
        Jeffrey is unable to read more than a few sentences and doesn’t realize there is a section called “Am I just a hater?” which explains it’s not a hate article

  130. Generally speaking, teens will think his main channel is great and young adults in their early 20s will think his unfiltered channel is great. Whatever the case, he is good at playing the algorithm to get people to find videos by making videos on topics of the trend.

    This doesn’t just go for Hamza but for a lot of these self improvement youtubers: A lot of them are like “I don’t like to brag” and then proceed to brag about how many girls they’ve got with it or how many tinder matches they get regularly, how much more money they’re making now, how tough they are in fights etc.
    I get it, they need to put up this image of some chad figure to their audience but most of them are probably not making the amount of money they claim they are nor are they attracting as much girls that they think/claim.

    It’s sometimes funny seeing certain responses from an outside perspective.

    Some guy: “Hamza you’re running a scummy self-help business”
    Hamza: YOUUuu YOuU JuST DONt UNDERSTAND BUSINESS

    Hamza: “Im seeing a therapist”
    Hamza fanboy: WOW HAMZA IS SO FKN BRAVE FOR ADMITTING THIS AND BEING VULNERABLE. I DONT KNOW ANY OTHER YOUTUBER THAT IS SO REAL LIKE HIM

    Hamza can often be narrow-minded, he skews examples to support whatever he’s saying.
    (1) He has a video called “stop hustle culture”, and sure there’s the toxic side of hustle culture and flaws to things said by people in that community like Gary Vee, so if you are to specifically address that then fine. But when you start saying it’s just “oh work all the time and no time to socialize” that’s an extreme and part of the toxic mindset of the hustle culture. You have to be able to see both sides of the coin, there are people who can do the whole hustle culture thing while having a great social life and without the toxic side to it.
    (2) He has another video on the 4hr work week summary.
    In this video he gives the example of an underpaid unfulfilled doctor. And sure he may have a point but you can see the way he skews it. There can just as well be someone who’s living this 4hr work week and feeling unfulfilled. Also it seems he’s making a correlation between money and fulfillment which isn’t accurate. Consider that people who become doctors generally don’t do it entirely for money as there are way more jobs with better ratio of work-time to pay. If anything, it’s the 4hr work week lifestyle that is more likely to lead someone to become civilized – and a lot of people become less happy when they become civilized.
    Hamza seems to get easily influenced by self-help books, he reads Tim Ferriss’ 4hr workweek then immediately starts thinking pretty much the same way without questioning any potential counterpoints to it. He then belittles those in the 9-5 working world. You can embrace entrepreneurship without acting like it makes you better than someone who has to work a normal job.

    Alan Watts had a nice way to put it – one should become completely engaged with what they’re doing in the here and now. And instead of calling it work, realize it is play. So it shouldn’t matter whether it’s a 9-5 job or passive income.
    Also if we talk about practical ways to make a lot of money without huge luck or being born into money or befriend/marry someone with a lot of money, then it really pretty much comes down to 2 options:
    (1) Be entrepreneurial and come up with a novel idea which will meet the needs of people who are willing to spend money on that particular product/service.
    (2) Study hard, get good grades and progress in a chosen career field that pays well on average.

    People with Hamza’s money mindset think “focus on creating value and that’ll make money as a byproduct.” which is true, simple but it’s not easy. Coming up with some unique creative idea that’s both practical to implement and highly valuable on a large scale isn’t exactly easy.

    Hamza isn’t entirely the problem though.
    A lot of these kids want him to make videos on the topics of the trend. They want these stupid book reviews instead of just reading the book themselves or finding some decent summary of it that’s already on the internet. They want these quick 5 minute videos.
    If you watch Hamza you have to understand that he’s still very young and is naturally going to contradict his values every now and then. Sure it shows that he’s still growing but it also shows that you’re not going to be getting advice from someone who has already matured their thoughts. This is the partial problem with the self-help community as many of the creators are still so young and lack real life experience and wisdom.

    The problem is often when people dabble in the idea of self-improvement instead of just knowing the gist of what you should do or what you want then simply go after it. The problem is when self-improvement gets turned into elaborate “how tos”/”hacks”/”techniques”/”methods”. For mechanical things, how-tos work, but when you’re trying to to operate at the top of a field or when you’re trying to do something creative, how-tos don’t work beyond the most extreme basics.
    And this is where we get people like Hamza and their cults.
    The teacher teaches the how, not only because he feels it is the only way or the best way. But because he simply loves to do so. He gains something from it. Emotionally and financially. The student asks the how, because he seeks a quick resolution to his problem. And though it may only work temporarily, he becomes accustomed to this chase.

    Hamza (or any other self-help creator) if you’re reading this, I know my post may seem a little harsh on you but I felt it needed to be said. You have a strong influence on thousands of young men, and from the comments I’ve read many boys in their teens will uncritically absorb your videos without second thought because they idolize you, lacking any positive male role models in their own life. Having a channel of your size comes with a certain level of social responsibility; an awareness of your own position in society as an influencer and shaper of lives. It’s great that you’ve helped a few people improve their life but if you can take in all the valid constructive criticism then work on your flaws and reach a higher level in your way of thinking then that will likely reflect back onto the viewers and improve a lot more people’s life.

  131. I’ve only seen a few videos of Hamza but have spoken to a lot of people in his server. Most of them I spoke to said they’ve been watching him for over a year and haven’t made any real lifestyle changes. There were a few others who said they watched him and now they’re more productive, these are the ones who tend to say they respect him and defend him more. So I’d say it mostly comes down to the individual whether they really want to change or not and for some people who find his memey videos as entertaining hamza can act as a catalyst to improving oneself for these people.

    I found hamza through his comment on another youtuber’s video. The comment said this:
    “I used to think I was like an 8/10 legend LOL just because I used to get girls in clubs and from Tinder. A couple months ago I did a 2 hour journal session to calculate my real SMV: 4.8 (it’s probably like 5.5 now that I’m making ok money).”-Hamza.
    While I respect the honesty there, it does seem pretty weird to sit down for 2 hours calculating what you perceive to be your sexual market value. I’m not saying SMV and social hierarchies don’t exist but to what extent are you going to break down a human being into a number. To how many decimal places? How many factors are you going to take into account (money, face, height, physique etc.)? Are you going to cross reference your calculation with others?
    This just feels like a whole lot of effort to judge yourself into a number, instead of just solely focusing on bettering yourself where this perceived number will likely increase on its own as an effect instead of obsessing over it.
    And look, I get it Hamza himself has admit that he isn’t perfect and then you get some people saying he’s so brave for admitting that and that they respect him for doing so. But what I’m getting at here and what the article seems to be getting at is there are many things wrong with his way of thinking which is also fine for the young dude who just wants to be more productive and can only watch hamza’s content over other self-help people because they find him to be (more) entertaining.

    Self-improvement itself has become oversaturated.
    There is a threshold point for the theory of a lot of the self-improvement popular topics and once you reach that point any further consuming of content by such self-help youtubers/writers with no impressive credentials doesn’t do much good.
    There is info on almost everything and the content creators just reword stuff with sometimes making slight changes.
    wanna know about habits? go read the power of habit, atomic habits, compound effect, slight edge etc.
    wanna know about willpower? go read willpower rediscovering the greatest human strength, willpower instinct etc.
    wanna know about motivation? go read the motivation hacker, the motivation myth etc.
    discipline? discipline is freedom, mastery etc.
    productivity? getting things done, eat that frog etc.
    focus? deep work, hyperfocus, indistractable etc.
    spirituality? power of now, the four agreements, wherever you go there you are etc.
    purpose? man’s search for meaning, thus spoke zarathustra etc.
    finance? rich dad poor dad, psychology of money, millionaire fastlane etc.
    social skills? how to win friends and influence people, how to talk to anyone etc.
    attracting girls? models, way of superior man, no more mr nice guy etc.
    new thought movement? power of your subconscious mind, breaking the habit of being yourself etc.
    How to become a content creator? Steal like an artist etc.

    And the list goes on and on. Almost everything has been covered and the content creators just regurgitate things they read, then rephrase and add in some personal storytelling with examples/analogies and nice cinematography/presentation then boom got a new vid. Even authors of self-help books build on what previous authors have stated before and drag out their books to make it longer than necessary so that it reaches a quota of words/pages. Content creators know that success, getting good aesthetics, becoming more attractive, making more money etc. is what most young dudes want and so they just make a bunch of vids around those topics. Nofap, dopamine detox, becoming more attractive, happiness, the mind, discipline, consistency and then your usual protocols like exercise, nutrition, deep work, meditation, jaw exercises, socializing, gratitude, journal. – That’s the usual stuff that they all rant about.

    Most young people will just learn about health, relationships and finance. Then obsess over all the theories and books regarding them instead of just taking action towards the gist of it. Whereas most older people have a job and therefore know the career path they’re on, they also have a wife and therefore they don’t need to watch any of those videos on becoming a more attractive man because they don’t feel the need to attract anyone else. Whereas with kids/young adults the whole self improvement thing paints a nice future outlook for them and they then fantasize about that possibility. Sure continuing to learn is good but one can do so in a scheduled time period and self-improvement just isn’t so broad, if you actually did all the productive shit that you know you should do then you wouldn’t have to watch/read anything about discipline, motivation, willpower, habits, etc. it’s fine to learn the overview of these things but your main focus of learning should be regarding your craft in life. Nothing wrong with progress and I’m sure many want to reach greatness, but I wouldn’t advise getting caught up in the obsession of the theoretical stuff in self-improvement instead of just thinking-less + doing-more.

  132. I’ve been watching hamza’s videos for a few months now.(have never paid for anything and dont watch the streams). I am just a young teenager and don’t have much experience so take what I’m saying with a grain of salt. anyways, I do agree with this article’s writer. Everything related to Hamza’s paid content isn’t looking so good, but I still respect him very much, and that’s because without being exposed to his videos I would still be lying around in a puddle of my own negative thoughts with freaking Instagram and Minecraft for 10 hours a day. and you might say well here’s the “he saved me guy” and yes, I am. His advice IS basic. but buy reinforcing those basic messages and repeating them he influenced me to actually take action. I do not have any social media anymore, and I can feel the change in mental health. I exercise, but only a little, to improve mental health and discipline, but not hurt myself. I have become more self aware, and all those things that are good for me and my future. He is no expert but without his damn memey videos I would never be on an improvement journey this young. I just wish I could get off YouTube too lol, currently working on that and I know it’s unprofessional but id appreciate advice.

    • The last line does say watching his free content is okay. And the writer even has a section “Am I saying to stop watching Hamza?” where he says he’s not telling people to stop watching him. The writer seems to understand that for a lot of teens, watching Hamza is likely still better than sitting on the couch doing nothing. There is no issue with that itself and what the writer highlights about the issue with hamza is completely different. In essence, if you do like watching Hamza then take that grain of salt and moderately watch him with it.

  133. As someone a little older than him, I don’t get why many teens think his advice is great, to me he’s mostly just saying obvious coupled with some story telling. He also just rehashes stuff already said by others. Even his meme of jeffrey to adonis is just self-transcendence which has been spoke about hundreds of years ago (e.g. Nietzsche spoke about it as “ubermensch”). He favorite line “Do the hard work especially when you don’t feel like it”, this has been said by a bunch of people, for example David Goggins said it as
    “You have to do the work when you’re least motivated”.
    There is nothing wrong with the advice itself but it’s just that it’s rehashed stuff with nothing new.

    I suppose it’s that it makes people feel good when he boosts their hope with stuff like “I was depressed/skinny/lonely/addicted/[insert whatever bad thing] but then I did [this] and now I’m happy/fit/wealthy/social/[insert whatever positive thing]” then some tiny paragraph like “Oh but it will be a lot of hard work and discipline and I only want committed people to do take this course”.

    With a lot of these self-help gurus, the question is what part of it is good marketing and what part of it is deceptive and that they’ve gone too far?
    Sometimes people don’t even realize that what they’re doing is deceptive marketing
    because they’re in their own bubble and constantly getting some positive feedback
    which then boosts their ego to falsely make them think that they’re some guy giving
    out high value info, and so they don’t even recognize what they’re doing is deceptive.
    And sometimes people feel almost too embarrassed to admit to themselves that they’ve been scammed for their money’s worth. It’s cognitive dissonance and they think “I’m not a sucker” and so instead of thinking that they got scammed they go “Oh I’m a smart guy so it must have been a good learning experience” when in reality you just shouldn’t have paid for any of his courses.

    Looking at some of those prices by Hamza, he surely must know that he’s being deceptive. I imagine he’s thinking something like “I will sell these courses for ridiculous prices and I’m not expecting many people to buy it but if anyone is desperate for help and really wants to take the program then cool and I’ll do my best to help but it’s not guaranteed that their life will change” and then having other much cheaper courses on skillshare for the majority of the consumer audience to pay for. This is also pretty common, to have separate price ranged courses, with one being a lot cheaper – and while it’s a lot cheaper, a lot more people purchase it. Andrew Tate does it too with his “War Room” costing over 4k while his “Hustler’s university” costs $50. So many others do it too, don’t fall for that crap.

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    Harmless 18 year old
    December 15, 2021 at 4:40 am

    Thank you for this article. I always had a bad feeling whenever I watched his content. I knew I’d never want to subscribe or buy his courses. I figured out why on my own by exploring my thoughts and feelings about his content but now with your article, it really opened my eyes more. I have nothing against him as well though. To any other young man, I’d be cautious of the advice you take from him and the courses he sells you.